Discussion:
Pizza Topping
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Saxman
2014-02-13 09:27:23 UTC
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I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......

I need to get it right. Any ideas?

There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
W.A. Sawford
2014-02-13 10:01:47 UTC
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What's the problem exactly with your sauce? I use tinned tomatoes plus
pretty much the other ingredients you mention. For herbs I use oregano,
but not too much cos we like it on the pizza itself too. Also a touch of
balsamic along with 1/2 tsp of sugar. The only thing I find I have to
remember is to cook it right down so it's not sloppy when you put it on
the dough.

Wendy
Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Saxman
2014-02-13 11:46:25 UTC
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Post by W.A. Sawford
What's the problem exactly with your sauce? I use tinned tomatoes plus
pretty much the other ingredients you mention. For herbs I use oregano,
but not too much cos we like it on the pizza itself too. Also a touch of
balsamic along with 1/2 tsp of sugar. The only thing I find I have to
remember is to cook it right down so it's not sloppy when you put it on
the dough.
Wendy
Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good
job. However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Somebody said it wasn't tomatoery enough.

I find that by reducing the sauce too much, one ends up with a paste
which doesn't form part of the dough.

Too watery and it loses it's flavour.

Commercial products seem to be a bit watery.
Giusi
2014-02-14 09:59:13 UTC
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Post by Saxman
Post by W.A. Sawford
What's the problem exactly with your sauce? I use tinned tomatoes plus
pretty much the other ingredients you mention. For herbs I use oregano,
but not too much cos we like it on the pizza itself too. Also a touch of
balsamic along with 1/2 tsp of sugar. The only thing I find I have to
remember is to cook it right down so it's not sloppy when you put it on
the dough.
Wendy
Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good
job. However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Somebody said it wasn't tomatoery enough.
I find that by reducing the sauce too much, one ends up with a paste
which doesn't form part of the dough.
Too watery and it loses it's flavour.
Commercial products seem to be a bit watery.
Here one just picks up a fistful of tinned tomato and squishes it through the fingers. Then you add what you want of other flavors. I drain them in a strainer for a while. Some traditional pizzas have no oregano, some no garlic, etc. Some have no tomato, which means you could make pizza everyday.

The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand with seasonings.
Mike.. . . .
2014-02-14 11:18:20 UTC
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The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand with seasonings.
and thick bases, sometimes with the disgusting "filled rim".
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Giusi
2014-02-15 09:58:02 UTC
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The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand with seasonings.
and thick bases, sometimes with the disgusting "filled rim".
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Mike... . . . .
As to that, the Neapolitan pizza is thicker, but has bubbles and charred bits and is nothing like those heavy, bready things sold ready to use.
Mike.. . . .
2014-02-15 11:44:53 UTC
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and thick bases, sometimes with the disgusting "filled rim".
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Mike... . . . .
As to that, the Neapolitan pizza is thicker, but has bubbles and charred bits and is nothing like those heavy, bready things sold ready to use.
In Napoli, they didnt seem anything like as heavy as many here and
neither were the people, I regard the heavily loaded, "deep pan" pizza
as US pizze, where a lot of people are heavy, could there be a link?
Our speciality seems to be mad fusion pizze. Like spare rib or Chicken
tikka pizza.

As you say, what shone out about Nap' Pizze was the simplicity,
something you can eat every day. Less is more.
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Giusi
2014-02-15 13:04:22 UTC
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In Napoli, they didnt seem anything like as heavy as many here and
neither were the people, I regard the heavily loaded, "deep pan" pizza
as US pizze, where a lot of people are heavy, could there be a link?
Unfortunately, just about all the pizza by the slice everywhere are weighty bombs.
I presume it's because it can be kept longer. I even know where to find it right here.
Both Brits and Yanks seem to think more is more. We perhaps put on more quantity and you seem to put on more conflicting flavors. I want nothing to do with either.
Ophelia
2014-02-14 11:22:15 UTC
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Post by Giusi
Here one just picks up a fistful of tinned tomato and squishes it through
the fingers. Then you add what you want of other flavors. I drain them
in a strainer for a while. Some traditional pizzas have no oregano, some
no garlic, etc. Some have no tomato, which means you could make pizza
everyday.
The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should
be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand
with seasonings.
Yes, that is my biggest fault. Always too much topping:(
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Malcolm Loades
2014-02-14 11:42:48 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
Post by Giusi
Here one just picks up a fistful of tinned tomato and squishes it
through the fingers. Then you add what you want of other flavors. I
drain them in a strainer for a while. Some traditional pizzas have
no oregano, some no garlic, etc. Some have no tomato, which means
you could make pizza everyday.
The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there
should be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too
heavy a hand with seasonings.
Yes, that is my biggest fault. Always too much topping:(
Indeed, less is more when it comes to pizza toppings.

Malcolm

PS I've started my own food blog www.afoodiediary.com
Ophelia
2014-02-14 11:48:50 UTC
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Post by Malcolm Loades
Post by Ophelia
Post by Giusi
Here one just picks up a fistful of tinned tomato and squishes it
through the fingers. Then you add what you want of other flavors. I
drain them in a strainer for a while. Some traditional pizzas have no
oregano, some no garlic, etc. Some have no tomato, which means you
could make pizza everyday.
The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should
be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a
hand with seasonings.
Yes, that is my biggest fault. Always too much topping:(
Indeed, less is more when it comes to pizza toppings.
Well the family seem to prefer it. I could try to reduce it but I reckon I
would get complaints after all this time:))
Post by Malcolm Loades
PS I've started my own food blog www.afoodiediary.com
Ok I'll have a wee look:)
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Giusi
2014-02-15 10:00:23 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
Post by Giusi
The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should
be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand
with seasonings.
Yes, that is my biggest fault. Always too much topping:(
That's why so many pizzas are fattening and unhealthful things people are afraid to eat more than rarely. Lightening up and allowing a good crust to shine is better and better for you.
Ophelia
2014-02-15 10:13:07 UTC
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Post by Giusi
Post by Ophelia
Post by Giusi
The mistakes most people make are: too much "sauce" because there should
be bare areas, too many toppings, too heavy toppings and too heavy a hand
with seasonings.
Yes, that is my biggest fault. Always too much topping:(
That's why so many pizzas are fattening and unhealthful things people are
afraid to eat more than rarely. Lightening up and allowing a good crust
to shine is better and better for you.
I don't make it very often so I give them what they like. If I were making
it even every week I might be inclined to change it.
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Mike.. . . .
2014-02-13 11:10:52 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
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Saxman
2014-02-13 11:42:52 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.

I was only referring to the sauce.
Ophelia
2014-02-13 12:44:57 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
Tom paste. It will thicken it up too.
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Saxman
2014-02-13 18:16:28 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
Tom paste. It will thicken it up too.
Dolmio do packets of tomato sauce with natural ingredients. I will try one.
Ophelia
2014-02-13 19:34:17 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
Tom paste. It will thicken it up too.
Dolmio do packets of tomato sauce with natural ingredients. I will try one.
I don't know about sauce, but the paste is thick.
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graham
2014-02-13 20:24:58 UTC
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Post by Saxman
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
Tom paste. It will thicken it up too.
Dolmio do packets of tomato sauce with natural ingredients. I will try one.
I don't know about sauce, but the paste is thick.
I buy the ready-made stuff in squeeze bottles. Grandkids here tomorrow so
we'll make pizzas from scratch for lunch.
Graham
Kev
2014-02-13 22:41:20 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
Tom paste. It will thicken it up too.
Dolmio do packets of tomato sauce with natural ingredients. I will try one.
I don't know about sauce, but the paste is thick.
I buy the ready-made stuff in squeeze bottles. Grandkids here tomorrow so
we'll make pizzas from scratch for lunch.
Graham
I use the "stir though" pasta sauces from Aldi - they work quite nicely
Giusi
2014-02-15 09:56:41 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
sugar? How about cheese or pepperoni or similar?
Sugar is supposed to take some of the acidity away from the tomatoes.
I was only referring to the sauce.
The minute sugar goes in, I leave. Buy better tomatoes!
Mike.. . . .
2014-02-15 11:36:58 UTC
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The minute sugar goes in, I leave. Buy better tomatoes!
+1
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Saxman
2014-02-15 12:51:18 UTC
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The minute sugar goes in, I leave. Buy better tomatoes!
+1
At top chef on TV recently stated that's what you do.
John Silver
2014-02-13 20:25:08 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
On sale in the Co-op Goats Cheese and Beetroot Chutney Pizza. Yuk:-)
John
Mike.. . . .
2014-02-13 21:22:11 UTC
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Co-op Goats Cheese and Beetroot Chutney Pizza
so authentic
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John Silver
2014-02-14 00:50:27 UTC
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Co-op Goats Cheese and Beetroot Chutney Pizza
so authentic
Best with Scottish dough.
http://screen.yahoo.com/viral-hits/papa-johns-employee-makes-dough-000028172.html
John
Mike.. . . .
2014-02-14 11:08:21 UTC
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Best with Scottish dough.
http://screen.yahoo.com/viral-hits/papa-johns-employee-makes-dough-000028172.html
John
saw that on FB :-)
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John Silver
2014-02-14 14:20:56 UTC
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Best with Scottish dough.
http://screen.yahoo.com/viral-hits/papa-johns-employee-makes-dough-000028172.html
John
saw that on FB :-)
We think that the Papa John dough was an advertising gimmick. Would the
dough rise overnight in cold winter weather? The expression the tweeter
used was not Scottish or or even British. We would never say ‘Sanitation
worker’ The Scottish expression is Scaffie or at best street cleaner.
John
Ophelia
2014-02-14 14:31:47 UTC
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Best with Scottish dough.
http://screen.yahoo.com/viral-hits/papa-johns-employee-makes-dough-000028172.html
John
saw that on FB :-)
We think that the Papa John dough was an advertising gimmick. Would the
dough rise overnight in cold winter weather? The expression the tweeter
used was not Scottish or or even British. We would never say ‘Sanitation
worker’ The Scottish expression is Scaffie or at best street cleaner.
When I used to make sourdough bread, I always put in the fridge for a long
slow rise, so yes, it will rise in the cold:) The slower the rise the
better the flavour:)
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graham
2014-02-14 16:41:09 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Why not try a Flambé d'Alsace?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarte_flamb%C3%A9e

Graham
Saxman
2014-02-14 21:30:46 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Why not try a Flambé d'Alsace?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarte_flamb%C3%A9e
Graham
Tried that, but a different kind of pizza?

I adopted the recipe from Rachel Khoo's 'Little Paris Kitchen'. Very nice.
Saxman
2014-02-14 21:31:31 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Why not try a Flambé d'Alsace?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarte_flamb%C3%A9e
Graham
Should have stated 'adapted'.
David B
2014-02-17 12:37:14 UTC
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Post by Saxman
I think I've got the bread base right and my pizza oven does a good job.
However, I stilled need to perfect the sauce topping.
I've experimented with passata, tin tomatoes, tomato puree......
I need to get it right. Any ideas?
There are other ingredients such as,
herbs
sugar
salt
chilli
pepper
garlic
olive oil
Not a traditional pizza as such but very much an Italian Alps pizza is my
favourite, Pizza Tartiflette. Look it up. Yummy.

D

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