Discussion:
Apple Pies in 60s/70s/80s?
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Brian Reay
2018-02-20 21:19:56 UTC
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We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.

I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.

I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.

I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.

Can anyone remember what who made them?



*For any overseas readers, the programme takes a family through the
decades looking at food and lifestyle etc.
graham
2018-02-20 21:25:10 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.
Since you were in the 60s do you remember the curries made by
Batchelor's? 2 packets in the box, one the curry mix and one the rice
and you used the packets to measure out the water.
Graham
Brian Reay
2018-02-20 23:45:04 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.
Since you were in the 60s do you remember the curries made by
Batchelor's? 2 packets in the box, one the curry mix and one the rice
and you used the packets to measure out the water.
Graham
The only ones I remember were Vesta, they fit the description.

My mum was horrified when my elder brother's girlfriend prepared one in
our kitchen. In the 60s, curry was 'foreign food' in the North East*,
and working class people didn't touch it. Even Yogurt was dodgy (bad
milk). I must have been 14 at least before I had a yogurt. Pasta came
out of a tin in tomato 'gloop'. Don't get me wrong, we ate well, just
traditional food- meat and two veg etc. I don't think my peers were any
different on the whole.

Gammon (ie a gammon 'steak') was considered quite a treat if you went
for a meal out. I remember adults discussing it when I was may be 11/12.
When I first tried one, I ordered it and had no idea what was going to
arrive. I was surprised when it turned out to be a bit of thick bacon. I
think I was 17 and we (my girlfriend, now wife, and I) had gone for a
pub meal.


*Odd really, as within may be 20 years there was (still is) a fantastic
array of Indian Sub-continent restaurants on a famous road to the beach
in my original home town.
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Ophelia
2018-02-21 08:48:18 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.
Since you were in the 60s do you remember the curries made by
Batchelor's? 2 packets in the box, one the curry mix and one the rice
and you used the packets to measure out the water.
Graham
The only ones I remember were Vesta, they fit the description.

My mum was horrified when my elder brother's girlfriend prepared one in
our kitchen. In the 60s, curry was 'foreign food' in the North East*,
and working class people didn't touch it. Even Yogurt was dodgy (bad
milk). I must have been 14 at least before I had a yogurt. Pasta came
out of a tin in tomato 'gloop'. Don't get me wrong, we ate well, just
traditional food- meat and two veg etc. I don't think my peers were any
different on the whole.

Gammon (ie a gammon 'steak') was considered quite a treat if you went
for a meal out. I remember adults discussing it when I was may be 11/12.
When I first tried one, I ordered it and had no idea what was going to
arrive. I was surprised when it turned out to be a bit of thick bacon. I
think I was 17 and we (my girlfriend, now wife, and I) had gone for a
pub meal.


*Odd really, as within may be 20 years there was (still is) a fantastic
array of Indian Sub-continent restaurants on a famous road to the beach
in my original home town.

==

Oh my! I remember those times well:))
graham
2018-02-21 17:22:51 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos
pies. While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our
student days, it led to a discussion on other items.
Since you were in the 60s do you remember the curries made by
Batchelor's? 2 packets in the box, one the curry mix and one the rice
and you used the packets to measure out the water.
Graham
The only ones I remember were Vesta, they fit the description.
Yes! Made by Batchelor's or one of the Unilever companies.

My room-mate at uni often cooked them for supper after an evening's
swotting.
Graham
John J Armstrong
2018-02-22 06:45:45 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos
pies. While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our
student days, it led to a discussion on other items.
Since you were in the 60s do you remember the curries made by
Batchelor's? 2 packets in the box, one the curry mix and one the rice
and you used the packets to measure out the water.
Graham
The only ones I remember were Vesta, they fit the description.
Yes! Made by Batchelor's or one of the Unilever companies.
My room-mate at uni often cooked them for supper after an evening's
swotting.
Graham
Does anyone here remember Cerola boil-in-the-bag curries? They came
(as the name suggests) in two plastic bags, one for rice and one for
curry. They were possibly marginally more palatable than Vesta's
offering.
Brian Reay
2018-02-22 08:26:54 UTC
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Post by John J Armstrong
Does anyone here remember Cerola boil-in-the-bag curries? They came
(as the name suggests) in two plastic bags, one for rice and one for
curry. They were possibly marginally more palatable than Vesta's
offering.
I remember boil-in-the-bag curries but not the make. Nor do I recall
ever trying one.

I've tried boil in the bag rice when camping - I was less than impressed.

Even when students, we (we were married at Uni) have always shied away
from convenience foods. I wouldn't say we never eat it but it is very
unusual, sometimes more out of curiosity we try something. For example,
when watching 'Back in Time' the other evening, they showed Frey Bentos
pies and we remembered trying one in our student days.
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s***@gowanhill.com
2018-02-23 23:25:41 UTC
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... they showed Frey Bentos
pies and we remembered trying one in our student days.
A Fray Bentos pie was high living in student days. I think we got 4 servings out of one.

I actually had a Princes version tonight for dinner. Only £1 from poundshops.

Owain
Brian Reay
2018-02-24 08:52:36 UTC
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Post by s***@gowanhill.com
... they showed Frey Bentos
pies and we remembered trying one in our student days.
A Fray Bentos pie was high living in student days. I think we got 4 servings out of one.
I actually had a Princes version tonight for dinner. Only £1 from poundshops.
Owain
I don't recall how much we paid for the one we tried- it was long before
£1 shops (late 70s)- but I would struggle to call it 'high living'. Nor
was I used to fancy food, growing up as I did on a council estate it the
NE in the 50/60/70s my food experiences were hardly exotic.

Perhaps I will give them another try. I must admit, while our experience
wasn't good back in the 70s, the one on the Back in Time programme
looked far better when it came out of the over than ours did.

Of course, our student flat had a Baby Belling cooker which, to put it
mildly, was 'challenged' in the oven department.
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s***@gowanhill.com
2018-02-25 22:36:04 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
- but I would struggle to call it 'high living'.
It was hot and it didn't come out of the toastie maker.
Post by Brian Reay
Of course, our student flat had a Baby Belling cooker which, to put it
mildly, was 'challenged' in the oven department.
Do you think those adverts of a housewife producing a three-course dinner with those little paper frills on the roast out of one were slightly optimistic?

Owain
Brian Reay
2018-02-26 08:44:51 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
- but I would struggle to call it 'high living'.
It was hot and it didn't come out of the toastie maker.
ROTFL
Post by s***@gowanhill.com
Post by Brian Reay
Of course, our student flat had a Baby Belling cooker which, to put it
mildly, was 'challenged' in the oven department.
Do you think those adverts of a housewife producing a three-course dinner with those little paper frills on the roast out of one were slightly optimistic?
I don't recall seeing those adverts. It was ok for basic things, the
oven was the problem. We used to cook a chicken in the pressure cooker
and just 'brown it' in the oven. We have a motorhome and the (gas) oven
in that reminds me of the BB- takes forever to get hot and the temp
setting is optimistic.

Actually, while we (still) joke about the Baby Belling (and it is 40
years ago), we have good memories of that time. We ate well enough, had
access to a local street market which also had a huge range of fruit,
veg, etc., including things we'd never seen before.


When we moved to next place, we had to by a cooker and bought a full
sized Belling. We had it for 10 years or so, sold it to some one who
wanted it for their French Gite. Then a Creda- with a fan oven and
their flat hob. Now we have AEG built in stuff, with induction hob.
Main AEG oven and hob have been fine. The combo microwave/fan oven etc
did give us a lot of grief but has settled down. I'd not recommend AEG.
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graham
2018-02-26 15:35:44 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
When we moved to next place, we had to by a cooker and bought a full
sized Belling. We had it for 10 years or so, sold it to some one who
wanted it for their French Gite. Then a Creda-  with a fan oven and
their flat hob. Now we have AEG built in stuff, with induction hob.
Main AEG oven and hob have been fine. The combo microwave/fan oven etc
did give us a lot of grief but has settled down. I'd not recommend AEG.
I feel the same way about Bosch.
Graham
Brian Reay
2018-02-27 13:08:19 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
When we moved to next place, we had to by a cooker and bought a full
sized Belling. We had it for 10 years or so, sold it to some one who
wanted it for their French Gite. Then a Creda-  with a fan oven and
their flat hob. Now we have AEG built in stuff, with induction hob.
Main AEG oven and hob have been fine. The combo microwave/fan oven etc
did give us a lot of grief but has settled down. I'd not recommend AEG.
I feel the same way about Bosch.
Graham
Yep, we've tried them. Not overly impressed.

Best Washing Machine we had was an Ariston- the first one lasted 17
years or so. Another Ariston only lasted about 5 or 6.

We tend to look for 5 year warranties included now and then treat them
as disposable if I can't easily fix them after that.
Ophelia
2018-02-27 14:04:39 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Brian Reay
When we moved to next place, we had to by a cooker and bought a full
sized Belling. We had it for 10 years or so, sold it to some one who
wanted it for their French Gite. Then a Creda- with a fan oven and their
flat hob. Now we have AEG built in stuff, with induction hob.
Main AEG oven and hob have been fine. The combo microwave/fan oven etc
did give us a lot of grief but has settled down. I'd not recommend AEG.
I feel the same way about Bosch.
Graham
Yep, we've tried them. Not overly impressed.

Best Washing Machine we had was an Ariston- the first one lasted 17
years or so. Another Ariston only lasted about 5 or 6.

We tend to look for 5 year warranties included now and then treat them
as disposable if I can't easily fix them after that.

==

Our current machine is a Beko XL9 From AO. It's now about 3 years old.

We pay £7 a month ins to AO for ours and they repair it if anything goes
wrong. If they can't repair it they replace it.

Ophelia
2018-02-26 11:48:10 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
- but I would struggle to call it 'high living'.
It was hot and it didn't come out of the toastie maker.
Post by Brian Reay
Of course, our student flat had a Baby Belling cooker which, to put it
mildly, was 'challenged' in the oven department.
Do you think those adverts of a housewife producing a three-course dinner
with those little paper frills on the roast out of one were slightly
optimistic?

Owain

==

lol just a lot <g>
Ophelia
2018-02-20 21:54:33 UTC
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We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.

I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.

I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.

I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.

Can anyone remember what who made them?



*For any overseas readers, the programme takes a family through the
decades looking at food and lifestyle etc.
==

When is it on? I haven't seen it.
Brian Reay
2018-02-20 23:24:46 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s.  I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
*For any overseas readers, the programme takes a family through the
decades looking at food and lifestyle etc.
==
When is it on?  I haven't seen it.
Tuesday, 8pm, BBC2

I think it is repeated Sunday, around 4/5pm.

Don't forget iPlayer.
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Ophelia
2018-02-21 08:46:27 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
We've been following 'Back in Time for Tea' on the BBC* which covered
the 1960s this week. One product which was shown was Fray Bentos pies.
While neither of use recall ever trying them until once in our student
days, it led to a discussion on other items.
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
*For any overseas readers, the programme takes a family through the
decades looking at food and lifestyle etc.
==
When is it on? I haven't seen it.
Tuesday, 8pm, BBC2

I think it is repeated Sunday, around 4/5pm.

Don't forget iPlayer.

==

Thanks:) I'll have a look:))
John J Armstrong
2018-02-21 06:56:37 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Brian Reay
2018-02-21 17:13:11 UTC
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Post by John J Armstrong
Post by Brian Reay
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Thank you, although I have better memories of them ;-)
Ophelia
2018-02-21 18:13:09 UTC
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Post by John J Armstrong
Post by Brian Reay
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Thank you, although I have better memories of them ;-)

==

We never had such things. All ours were baked at home.
s***@gowanhill.com
2018-02-21 18:40:34 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
We never had such things. All ours were baked at home.
Likewise.

I used to dream of packet food. Such flavour, such freshness, such softness, such absence of carbon ...

Owain
Ophelia
2018-02-21 19:44:39 UTC
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We never had such things. All ours were baked at home.
Likewise.

I used to dream of packet food. Such flavour, such freshness, such softness,
such absence of carbon ...

Owain

==

lol I am sure you didn't. I must admit though, I used to wonder what the
attraction was:)
Brian Reay
2018-02-21 20:59:53 UTC
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Post by John J Armstrong
Post by Brian Reay
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s.  I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Thank you, although I have better memories of them ;-)
==
We never had such things.   All ours were baked at home.
My mum used to make lovely apple pies, as does my wife.

I just really like apple, well, fruit pies* and used to have these when
homemade weren't available.

Unlike John, I recall them as being well filled. The filling was a mix
of puree and 'lumps'. Nor do I remember the pastry being that thick.

Of course, it could just be a case of remembering things with rose
tinted specs on or may be there was more than one make.

*Blackberry and apple is rather good.
Brian Reay
2018-02-21 21:04:32 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
Unlike John, I recall them as being well filled. The filling was a mix
of puree and 'lumps'. Nor do I remember the pastry being that thick.
Of course, it could just be a case of remembering things with rose
tinted specs on or may be there was more than one make.
I've just Googled the Lyon ones, they stopped making them in 1968. While
some of the early ones I had may have been Lyons, the ones I'm thinking
of were, I'm pretty sure, available into early 80s at least.
Ophelia
2018-02-21 21:32:55 UTC
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Unlike John, I recall them as being well filled. The filling was a mix of
puree and 'lumps'. Nor do I remember the pastry being that thick.
Of course, it could just be a case of remembering things with rose tinted
specs on or may be there was more than one make.
I've just Googled the Lyon ones, they stopped making them in 1968. While
some of the early ones I had may have been Lyons, the ones I'm thinking
of were, I'm pretty sure, available into early 80s at least.

==

Dunno, sorry:( Always had home made. I am the same now, I very rarely buy
anything premade.

Btw we watched the first two episodes this afternoon. Boy oh
boy. Does it take me back!! Nostalgia in buckets!

We have one to watch now to catch up, the one from last night, but he has
set the rest of it to copy.
Ophelia
2018-02-21 21:32:17 UTC
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Post by Brian Reay
I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s. I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Thank you, although I have better memories of them ;-)
==
We never had such things. All ours were baked at home.
My mum used to make lovely apple pies, as does my wife.

I just really like apple, well, fruit pies* and used to have these when
homemade weren't available.

Unlike John, I recall them as being well filled. The filling was a mix
of puree and 'lumps'. Nor do I remember the pastry being that thick.

Of course, it could just be a case of remembering things with rose
tinted specs on or may be there was more than one make.

*Blackberry and apple is rather good.

===

I have always grown brambles for pies as did my grandmother. They must be
mixed with apples - it's the law:) Hubby eats the berries straight from
the bush
though!!
Brian Reay
2018-02-22 08:28:26 UTC
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I remember a range of fruit pies, each about 3 or 4 inches in diameter,
which came in individual boxes.
I'm pretty sure they were around in the 1960s (I think we sometimes took
them on picnics) and they were certainly around in the early 80s.  I
don't recall seeing them since, I have looked from time to time.
I'm sure there was only one brand. I suppose the could have been
supermarket own brands but it is the main brand I'm interested in.
Can anyone remember what who made them?
Lyons Individual Fruit Pies. Lots of pastry, mostly fresh air inside,
and about a teaspoonful of fruit puree. I think BR sold them in
railway buffet cars, but GIYF.
Thank you, although I have better memories of them ;-)
==
We never had such things.   All ours were baked at home.
My mum used to make lovely apple pies, as does my wife.
I just really like apple, well, fruit pies* and used to have these when
homemade weren't available.
Unlike John, I recall them as being well filled. The filling was a mix
of puree and 'lumps'. Nor do I remember the pastry being that thick.
Of course, it could just be a case of remembering things with rose
tinted specs on or may be there was more than one make.
*Blackberry and apple is rather good.
===
I have always grown brambles for pies as did my grandmother.  They must be
mixed with apples - it's the law:)   Hubby eats the berries straight
from the bush
though!!
One of life's simple pleasures.
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