Could reddit.com be the answer?

[Malcolm Loades]

I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.

The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.

I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated
if so wished.

What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.

Malcolm

[Ophelia]

"Malcolm Loades" wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...

I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.

The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.

I ask if we could reunite again as a subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated
if so wished.

What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.

Malcolm

==

That is new to me. I could be interested!

Ok I looked at this and I am still no wiser:)

How does one get into it?

[Malcolm Loades]

Post by Ophelia
Ok I looked at this and I am still no wiser:)
http://youtu.be/tlI022aUWQQ

Don't bother with that, try the thing itself!

Post by Ophelia
How does one get into it?

You simply point your browser at www.reddit.com

Here's a randomly picked picked page from the 'seriouseats' group
http://tinyurl.com/yc2clbnz

Yes, that's a US dominated group. Just try and image a UK oriented
food+drink group.

Malcolm

[Ophelia]

Post by Ophelia
Ok I looked at this and I am still no wiser:)
http://youtu.be/tlI022aUWQQ

Don't bother with that, try the thing itself!

Post by Ophelia
How does one get into it?

You simply point your browser at www.reddit.com

Here's a randomly picked picked page from the 'seriouseats' group
http://tinyurl.com/yc2clbnz

Yes, that's a US dominated group. Just try and image a UK oriented
food+drink group.

Malcolm

==

Hmm different! I guess I could get used to it.

Worth a try?

[Malcolm Loades]

Post by Ophelia
Hmm different! I guess I could get used to it.
Worth a try?

I think it may be.

But since the majority use the facebook group it's not worth putting he
idea to them unless almost everyone here would be willing to give a try
to reuniting again.

Malcolm

[Ophelia]

Post by Ophelia
Hmm different! I guess I could get used to it.
Worth a try?

I think it may be.

But since the majority use the facebook group it's not worth putting he
idea to them unless almost everyone here would be willing to give a try
to reuniting again.

Malcolm

==

I guess not. Not a bad idea though:)

[Brian Reay]

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It could also be moderated
if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?

I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.



Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.


Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.

[Ophelia]

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an admin
before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete stuff they
deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that pictures can
be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated if
so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook group
yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?

I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.



Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.


Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.

==

Oh believe me. There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is why
everyone left.

This used to be a busy group before that.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst
having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all
the data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It could also be
moderated if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like
the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'.  Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me.  There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is
why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.

While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated if
so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook group
yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me. There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is why
everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.

While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.

====

No it got *really* nasty. The 'person' came in deliberately to target a
poster here and brought her pals. I objected and thereafter I was a target
too.

It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really fed
up with it and went off to facebook.

The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.

It must have been before your time. This used to be a really good and busy
group. I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)

She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her in my
bin so I never see her unless someone responds. She has learned it is a
waste of time.

It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day. We live and learn!

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more modern in
that pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to
the facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a
few remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love
of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they
call their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group
whilst having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but
without all the data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It
could also be moderated if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like
the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'.  Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me.  There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is
why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty.  The 'person' came in deliberately to target a
poster here and brought her pals.  I objected and thereafter I was a
target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really
fed up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time.  This used to be a really good and
busy group.  I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her in
my bin so I never see her unless someone responds.  She has learned it
is a waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day.  We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated
if so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me. There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is
why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty. The 'person' came in deliberately to target a
poster here and brought her pals. I objected and thereafter I was a
target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really fed
up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time. This used to be a really good and
busy group. I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her in my
bin so I never see her unless someone responds. She has learned it is a
waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day. We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.


==

.... at least at the moment ... All the regulars went off to FB. I suspect
they are happy and comfortable there, so no reason to leave it.

There is no reason for them to believe that if they did come back that it
wouldn't start again:(

[Kev]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to
delete stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more
modern in that pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to
the facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst
a few remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a
love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they
call their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group
whilst having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but
without all the data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It
could also be moderated if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like
the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'.  Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me.  There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which
is why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty.  The 'person' came in deliberately to target
a poster here and brought her pals.  I objected and thereafter I was a
target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really
fed up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time.  This used to be a really good and
busy group.  I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her
in my bin so I never see her unless someone responds.  She has learned
it is a waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day.  We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.
==
.... at least at the moment ...  All the regulars went off to FB.  I
suspect they are happy and comfortable there, so no reason to leave it.
There is no reason for them to believe that if they did come back that
it wouldn't start again:(
Fight...fight...fight!

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst
having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the
data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be
moderated if so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me. There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is
why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty. The 'person' came in deliberately to target a
poster here and brought her pals. I objected and thereafter I was a
target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really
fed up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time. This used to be a really good and
busy group. I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her in
my bin so I never see her unless someone responds. She has learned it is
a waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day. We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.
==
.... at least at the moment ... All the regulars went off to FB. I
suspect they are happy and comfortable there, so no reason to leave it.
There is no reason for them to believe that if they did come back that it
wouldn't start again:(
Fight...fight...fight!

==

That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

[Kev]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by
an admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to
delete stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more
modern in that pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to
the facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst
a few remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a
love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they
call their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group
whilst having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but
without all the data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It
could also be moderated if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like
the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'.  Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me.  There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which
is why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty.  The 'person' came in deliberately to
target a poster here and brought her pals.  I objected and thereafter
I was a target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got
really fed up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time.  This used to be a really good
and busy group.  I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her
in my bin so I never see her unless someone responds.  She has
learned it is a waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day.  We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.
==
.... at least at the moment ...  All the regulars went off to FB.  I
suspect they are happy and comfortable there, so no reason to leave it.
There is no reason for them to believe that if they did come back that
it wouldn't start again:(
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

Yes - I thought this group was moribund - but just happened to look the
other week and was surprised there was some movement.

I do look at the FB group - but it doesn't really get going.

How are we all?

[Ophelia]

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst
having al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all
the data harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be
moderated if so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like
the idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.
==
Oh believe me. There was *plenty* of abuse here in the past, which is
why everyone left.
This used to be a busy group before that.

I've 'been around' several years, either it was before that or I missed it.
While there have been some 'interlopers'- who where probably posting the
same nonsense in several groups- everyone else has been fine.
====
No it got *really* nasty. The 'person' came in deliberately to target a
poster here and brought her pals. I objected and thereafter I was a
target too.
It got so bad that posters who had been here for many years got really
fed up with it and went off to facebook.
The 'person' doesn't ever do facebook because she knows she would be banned.
It must have been before your time. This used to be a really good and
busy group. I keep an eye on it in case it ever wakes up:)
She followed me to another food group but I have learned to keep her in
my bin so I never see her unless someone responds. She has learned it
is a waste of time.
It is a pity we didn't do that back in the day. We live and learn!

There is no shortage of troublemakers who try to ruin groups. While
moderated groups sometimes help, the noise level here doesn't really
require such drastic steps- at least at the moment.
==
.... at least at the moment ... All the regulars went off to FB. I
suspect they are happy and comfortable there, so no reason to leave it.
There is no reason for them to believe that if they did come back that it
wouldn't start again:(
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

Yes - I thought this group was moribund - but just happened to look the
other week and was surprised there was some movement.

I do look at the FB group - but it doesn't really get going.

How are we all?

==

Really?? I thought they had all migrated there and I imagined it to be as
busy as it used to be here!!

A *very* few people post here occasionally. If we post a bit more, perhaps
they will join us.

What have you been cooking? :))

[Kev]

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh

I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour

Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

[graham]

Post by Kev

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

Years ago when I was making yoghurt regularly, any poor lot was put in a
cheesecloth bag and drained. Then I made cheesecake with it.
Graham

[Ophelia]

Post by Kev

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a couple
of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

Years ago when I was making yoghurt regularly, any poor lot was put in a
cheesecloth bag and drained. Then I made cheesecake with it.
Graham

==

I used to make Yorkshire curd tarts and I had to make the curds myself
because I could never find them where I lived.

I used to hang them in cheesecloth to drain too:))

[Brian Reay]

Post by graham

Post by Kev

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my
reader program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

Years ago when I was making yoghurt regularly, any poor lot was put in a
cheesecloth bag and drained. Then I made cheesecake with it.
Graham
==
I used to make Yorkshire curd tarts and I had to make the curds myself
because I could never find them where I lived.
I used to hang them in cheesecloth to drain too:))

Aren't the best curd tarts made with the first few batches of milk
following the birth of a calf?

[Ophelia]

Post by graham

Post by Kev

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my
reader program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

Years ago when I was making yoghurt regularly, any poor lot was put in a
cheesecloth bag and drained. Then I made cheesecake with it.
Graham
==
I used to make Yorkshire curd tarts and I had to make the curds myself
because I could never find them where I lived.
I used to hang them in cheesecloth to drain too:))

Aren't the best curd tarts made with the first few batches of milk
following the birth of a calf?

====

I expect so, for those lucky enough to have some.

[Brian Reay]

Post by graham

Post by Kev

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my
reader program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

Years ago when I was making yoghurt regularly, any poor lot was put in a
cheesecloth bag and drained. Then I made cheesecake with it.
Graham

I used to make yogurt regularly but stopped for some reason- not sure
why. I suspect time. I used one of the simple yogurt makers with a small
box and 6 jars.


Oddly, after noticing something on Youtube, I've been thinking about
trying the vacuum flask method to make yogurt.

I tried making soft cheese once but the result looked disgusting.

[graham]

Post by Brian Reay
Oddly, after noticing something on Youtube, I've been thinking about
trying the vacuum flask method to make yogurt.

That might work but every batch I made using an insulated pot turned out
"stringy", i.e., a sort of yoghurt version of melted mozzarella.
I went back to using a heated pot.
Graham

[Ophelia]

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh

I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour

Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!

==

Your pesto sounds good! I used to make cheese but it was a very long time
ago

[Kev]

Post by Kev

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!
==
Your pesto sounds good!  I used to make cheese but it was a very long
time ago

Yeah - it was nice. I read recently that you can pickle the seedheads -
so I might do that too.

I quite fancy doing more with cheese, but I was put off a few years ago
- I received a cheese making kit as a present, but the accompanying book
said that if you had pets, it was necessary to keep everything strictly
away from any possible close encounter - so having an inquisitive cat
about, I shied away - but perhaps I've been over cautious?

[Ophelia]

Post by Kev

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you be
staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!
==
Your pesto sounds good! I used to make cheese but it was a very long time
ago

Yeah - it was nice. I read recently that you can pickle the seedheads -
so I might do that too.

I quite fancy doing more with cheese, but I was put off a few years ago
- I received a cheese making kit as a present, but the accompanying book
said that if you had pets, it was necessary to keep everything strictly
away from any possible close encounter - so having an inquisitive cat
about, I shied away - but perhaps I've been over cautious?

==

No idea. I haven't heard of that one, unless they think a cat might go for
the milk?

[Kev]

Post by Kev

Post by Kev

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:(  Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!
==
Your pesto sounds good!  I used to make cheese but it was a very long
time ago

Yeah - it was nice. I read recently that you can pickle the seedheads -
so I might do that too.
I quite fancy doing more with cheese, but I was put off a few years ago
- I received a cheese making kit as a present, but the accompanying book
said that if you had pets, it was necessary to keep everything strictly
away from any possible close encounter - so having an inquisitive cat
about, I shied away - but perhaps I've been over cautious?
==
No idea.  I haven't heard of that one, unless they think a cat might go
for the milk?

The suggestion was that cheese (other than the quick overnight stuff)
can be hanging round maturing for quite a while and the pets could
infect it with nasties as it really needs a scrupulously clean
environment - as dairy is a good breeding place.
Maybe - it was enough to put me off trying as I have enough digestive
system problems as it is :(

[Ophelia]

Post by Kev

Post by Kev

Post by Ophelia

Post by Brian Reay
Fight...fight...fight!

==
That is exactly how it used to be:( Now you are here, Kev, will you
be staying to discuss food?:)

In answer to your question that has strangely disappeared from my reader
program - nothing very exciting tbh
I did go gathering wild garlic recently and made a load of Wild Garlic
Pesto, which I froze in ice cube trays - so can now just chuck in a
couple of blocks as back ground flavour
Been playing with making simple cream cheese from yogurt too - its so
easy, I don't know why I haven't done it before!
==
Your pesto sounds good! I used to make cheese but it was a very long
time ago

Yeah - it was nice. I read recently that you can pickle the seedheads -
so I might do that too.
I quite fancy doing more with cheese, but I was put off a few years ago
- I received a cheese making kit as a present, but the accompanying book
said that if you had pets, it was necessary to keep everything strictly
away from any possible close encounter - so having an inquisitive cat
about, I shied away - but perhaps I've been over cautious?
==
No idea. I haven't heard of that one, unless they think a cat might go
for the milk?

The suggestion was that cheese (other than the quick overnight stuff)
can be hanging round maturing for quite a while and the pets could
infect it with nasties as it really needs a scrupulously clean
environment - as dairy is a good breeding place.
Maybe - it was enough to put me off trying as I have enough digestive
system problems as it is :(
==

Oh! What a shame:(

[Malcolm Loades]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'.  Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate.  Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group.  Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups.  reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook.  It could also be moderated
if so wished.
What do you think?  I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.

If you'd been reading this ng when it 'broke up' you'd understand why
your comments do not fit around what happened here.

However, that is now academic since there have been only 2 people here
who've thought it worth a try. I can see little point in putting it to
the much larger fb group if only two more people may join a possibly
united discussion group.

Malcolm

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Malcolm Loades
I think that there were two primary reasons for the creation of the
facebook group 'food and drink uk'. Firstly, to control spam and
inappropriate posts by making contributors have to be approved by an
admin before they can post, followed by the admin's ability to delete
stuff they deem inappropriate. Secondly, it's far more modern in that
pictures can be uploaded as part of a post.
The majority of uk.food+drink.misc contributors then moved over to the
facebook group. Some, like me with a certain reticence, whilst a few
remained here I guess more for a distrust of facebook than a love of usenet.
I ask if we could reunite again as a reddit.com subreddit as they call
their groups. reddit.com is much more like a usenet group whilst having
al the modern stuff where images are allowed but without all the data
harvesting, like, friends etc of facebook. It could also be moderated
if so wished.
What do you think? I haven't put this idea forward to the facebook
group yet since there will be little point if users here don't like the
idea.
Malcolm

The first question is, why isn't this group used more?
I've not seen much abuse (compared with some others)- a bit of spam- but
not the real abuse that causes people to 'leave'.
Therefore, that isn't the reason for 'under use'. Perhaps there just
isn't the interest.
Starting another group won't magically generate interest. There may be
an initial spurt but, once that dies down, it won't be any more active.
Moderation would stop the spam but, while I've no issue with
moderation/moderated groups (I run/moderate several), thankfully this
group doesn't need it.

If you'd been reading this ng when it 'broke up' you'd understand why
your comments do not fit around what happened here.

However, that is now academic since there have been only 2 people here
who've thought it worth a try. I can see little point in putting it to
the much larger fb group if only two more people may join a possibly
united discussion group.

Malcolm

==

I guess if we used this group more, it might grow a bit. The big thing
though is to totally ignore the troublemaker when she arrives!!!