Discussion:
Pewter frying pan
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White Spirit
2014-01-10 12:57:56 UTC
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I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Anyway, to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made
of English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in
the alloy are considered toxic.

I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable. I hunted high and low for one but to no avail so I found a
metalworker who agreed to create one for me for a fairly reasonable
price. He was quite amused at my insistence on having one and seemed to
think I was being a trifle obsessive but I thought it would make a nice
addition to my kitchen.

Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.

Who knows, this could start a new trend.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 13:06:43 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
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Mike... . . . .
White Spirit
2014-01-10 13:16:43 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 14:07:23 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
of course they are. I wasn't being ironic.
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White Spirit
2014-01-10 14:11:03 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
of course they are. I wasn't being ironic.
I would have said sarcastic. My new frying pan certainly isn't ironic
so I won't have problems with it rusting in the dishwasher.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 14:41:55 UTC
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of course they are. I wasn't being ironic.
I would have said sarcastic.
I wasn't being sarcastic either. What is truly ironic is the song
"isn't it ironic" doesn't contain any.
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RustyHinge
2014-01-10 19:16:29 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
of course they are. I wasn't being ironic.
I would have said sarcastic. My new frying pan certainly isn't ironic
so I won't have problems with it rusting in the dishwasher.
No,but you _will_ have prombles scraping-up the spelter after putting it
on the ring.
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RustyHinge
2014-01-10 18:18:52 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
Well, it _is_ fascinating.
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Rusty Hinge
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el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 18:43:14 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
Well, it _is_ fascinating.
Isle of Mann TT.
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 20:04:32 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night.
fascinating!
I'm not sure what engendered that response. Cooking utensils are
perfectly on-topic.
Well, it _is_ fascinating.
Isle of Mann TT.
So's that - it's grown an extra 'n'.
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Gary
2014-01-10 13:40:29 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
I use stainless steel almost exclusively and have *never* had a rust
issue.
Revereware pots and pans.

G.
White Spirit
2014-01-10 13:46:02 UTC
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Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Dishwasher salt is commonly available in the UK so I assume it's normal.
There are all-in-one tablets that contain salt already. It's used to
counteract the hardness of water.
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
It isn't truly stainless.
Post by Gary
I use stainless steel almost exclusively and have *never* had a rust
issue.
If you put them in a dishwasher with the salt dispenser set too high,
you will.
Gary
2014-01-10 14:18:29 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
It isn't truly stainless.
Try the Revereware then, it is truly stainless steel, with copper clad
bottoms. It's cheap cookware but I've used it almost exclusively for
almost 40 years. It works fine for me and never a rust issue or a
problem cooking with it/them. I have 4 frying pans and about a dozen
different sized pots.
Post by White Spirit
If you put them in a dishwasher with the salt dispenser set too high,
you will.
I'll bet you're wrong there with what I use. No rust - ever,
dishwasher or hand washing or neglecting them for days.

G.
Julie Bove
2014-01-10 21:58:14 UTC
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Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
It isn't truly stainless.
Try the Revereware then, it is truly stainless steel, with copper clad
bottoms. It's cheap cookware but I've used it almost exclusively for
almost 40 years. It works fine for me and never a rust issue or a
problem cooking with it/them. I have 4 frying pans and about a dozen
different sized pots.
Post by White Spirit
If you put them in a dishwasher with the salt dispenser set too high,
you will.
I'll bet you're wrong there with what I use. No rust - ever,
dishwasher or hand washing or neglecting them for days.
Mine haven't rusted either but I quit putting them in the dishwasher after I
learned that it dulls the handles.
Jane Gillett
2014-01-11 09:07:43 UTC
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Post by Julie Bove
Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
It isn't truly stainless.
Try the Revereware then, it is truly stainless steel, with copper clad
bottoms. It's cheap cookware but I've used it almost exclusively for
almost 40 years. It works fine for me and never a rust issue or a
problem cooking with it/them. I have 4 frying pans and about a dozen
different sized pots.
Post by White Spirit
If you put them in a dishwasher with the salt dispenser set too high,
you will.
I'll bet you're wrong there with what I use. No rust - ever,
dishwasher or hand washing or neglecting them for days.
Mine haven't rusted either but I quit putting them in the dishwasher after I
learned that it dulls the handles.
Yes. A lot of my utensils pre-date common ownership of dishwashers so I
have many handles that won't take dishwashers; just don't put them in.
Saucepans take up a lot of room in a dw anyway and with stainless it's easy
to just wash them by hand.

ASA stainless is concerned, again early stainless to the private market
(I'm really showing my age today!) hadn't solved the problem of lack of
conductivity compared with aluminium so the early stainless pans burnt very
easily. Now, although stainless is not "non-stick", it doesn't burn as
easily now the manufacturers have got to grips with the techniques of heat
distribution by clever bases and thicker sides. I have several stainless
pans and wouldn't be without them. And, no, I've never seen any signs of
rust. How old were the pans?

Back to pewter, no experience I'm afraid but will be interested - like
Mike, who I'm sure (after many arguments between us!) didn't mean anything
other than it was interesting - to find out more.

Cheers
jane
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Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 17:59:25 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
A lot of my utensils pre-date common ownership of dishwashers so I
have many handles that won't take dishwashers; just don't put them in.
I have so much stuff that didn't fit, was not proof or lead crystal
that would be ruined over time, I gave up.
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Phil Cook
2014-01-10 14:31:44 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease.
If it's discredited why are you worrying?
Post by White Spirit
Post by Gary
I use stainless steel almost exclusively and have *never* had a rust
issue.
If you put them in a dishwasher with the salt dispenser set too high,
you will.
Well turn it down then. :-)
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Jeßus
2014-01-10 20:19:39 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 14:31:44 +0000, Phil Cook
Post by Phil Cook
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease.
If it's discredited why are you worrying?
Read the post again - it's full of bait.
Don't fall for it.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 21:01:28 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
Post by Phil Cook
If it's discredited why are you worrying?
Read the post again - it's full of bait.
Don't fall for it.
better still, just don't worry about it <shrug>
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Jeßus
2014-01-11 07:54:23 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 21:01:28 +0000, Mike.. . . .
Post by Mike.. . . .
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Post by Jeßus
Post by Phil Cook
If it's discredited why are you worrying?
Read the post again - it's full of bait.
Don't fall for it.
better still, just don't worry about it <shrug>
Indeed, certainly not worry worthy...
Nancy Young
2014-01-10 14:10:02 UTC
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Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Looking around, I see that some Miele machines have a dispenser
for water softener salt.

I've seen what affect hard water has in a dishwasher, and how
easily it was corrected by using the Finish or Cascade pods,
doesn't seem like water softener would be necessary.

nancy
White Spirit
2014-01-10 14:12:55 UTC
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Post by Nancy Young
I've seen what affect hard water has in a dishwasher, and how
easily it was corrected by using the Finish or Cascade pods,
doesn't seem like water softener would be necessary.
It's not necessary strictly speaking because there are tablets that
contain salt and rinse aid. However, the environmentally friendly
tablets that I prefer require separate salt to be used.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 14:43:36 UTC
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Post by Nancy Young
Looking around, I see that some Miele machines have a dispenser
for water softener salt.
when I had a dishwasher, it had a salt reservoir. This was years ago.
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Ophelia
2014-01-10 14:51:44 UTC
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Post by Nancy Young
Looking around, I see that some Miele machines have a dispenser
for water softener salt.
when I had a dishwasher, it had a salt reservoir. This was years ago.
Mine does but I have never used it because the water up here is so soft
already
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Nunya Bidnits
2014-01-10 18:13:39 UTC
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Post by Nancy Young
Post by Gary
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely
discredited hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers'
disease. Stainless steel is nice but I have had problems with them
rusting in the dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser
set too high.
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Looking around, I see that some Miele machines have a dispenser
for water softener salt.
What kind of salt is the question. I doubt it's the same as throwing in a
tablespoon of table salt.
Post by Nancy Young
I've seen what affect hard water has in a dishwasher, and how
easily it was corrected by using the Finish or Cascade pods,
doesn't seem like water softener would be necessary.
nancy
The Finish Quantums are excellent. Haven't used the Cascade pods. I've also
used vinegar in the rinse agent dispenser.

Have you found that while the premium pods get the dishes spotlessly clean,
they tend to leave a brownish residue coating the inside of the dishwasher?

This is cleaned off by running it empty with a tablespoon or so of citric
acid.

MartyB
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 18:42:27 UTC
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This is cleaned off by running it empty with a tablespoon or so of
citric acid.
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2014-01-11 18:04:41 UTC
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What kind of salt is the question.
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Ed Pawlowski
2014-01-10 15:52:27 UTC
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Post by Gary
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Some small counter top units have them. Not sure about built in, but it
is mostly a Europe thing.
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
I use stainless steel almost exclusively and have *never* had a rust
issue.
Revereware pots and pans.
My guess is pitting, not rust.
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 19:22:04 UTC
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Post by Ed Pawlowski
Post by Gary
Salt dispenser in your dishwasher? That's a new one to me.
Some small counter top units have them. Not sure about built in, but it
is mostly a Europe thing.
Post by Gary
Also, never heard of stainless steel rusting.
I use stainless steel almost exclusively and have *never* had a rust
issue.
Revereware pots and pans.
My guess is pitting, not rust.
Pitting (in iron or steel) is caused by rust.
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Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 19:43:08 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by Ed Pawlowski
My guess is pitting, not rust.
Pitting (in iron or steel) is caused by rust.
OK, O Pitted Hinge
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Ed Pawlowski
2014-01-10 15:44:00 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high. Anyway,
to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made of
English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in the
alloy are considered toxic.
I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable.
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
Doubt it. Melting point is too low. 340F to about 450F. It is about
92% to 94% tin.

Aluminum, depending on the alloy can be double that, cast iron 4X that.

No way would I try to sear a steak in pewter, or much of anything else.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 16:19:52 UTC
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Melting point is too low. 340F to about 450F. It is about
92% to 94% tin.
My oven goes to 590F. Hmmm, should I renege on the no sarcasm?
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dsi1
2014-01-10 17:37:02 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high. Anyway,
to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made of
English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in the
alloy are considered toxic.
I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable. I hunted high and low for one but to no avail so I found a
metalworker who agreed to create one for me for a fairly reasonable
price. He was quite amused at my insistence on having one and seemed to
think I was being a trifle obsessive but I thought it would make a nice
addition to my kitchen.
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
I like pewter. They used to make many things out of it because it was so
easy to cast. Pewter has the unusual property of not tarnishing. Tell
your new friend to make you some plates and utensils out of the stuff.
Now that could start a trend because the metal is so retro and retro is
in. OTOH, I think there's a good chance the stuff will have lead because
it's eminently recyclable.
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 19:38:08 UTC
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I like pewter. They used to make many things out of it because it was so
easy to cast. Pewter has the unusual property of not tarnishing. Tell
your new friend to make you some plates and utensils out of the stuff.
Now that could start a trend because the metal is so retro and retro is
in. OTOH, I think there's a good chance the stuff will have lead because
it's eminently recyclable.
What is sold as 'pewter' these days is _not_ pewter, but an alloy of
tin, antimony, bismuth and copper. (More like Britannia Metal)

Alloys always melt at a temperature below that of the melting-point of
the component with the lowest one. The more metals you add, the lower
the melting-point will be.

(See eutectic mixtures.)

Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
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Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 20:23:49 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
I have a pewter tankard (very old) I tried it for beer but I felt it
tainted the beer, might be my imagination.
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S Viemeister
2014-01-10 21:16:54 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
I have a pewter tankard (very old) I tried it for beer but I felt it
tainted the beer, might be my imagination.
I have some pewter goblets - about 40 years old. I've used them for
wine, but like you, I feel they affect the taste.
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 21:58:59 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
I have a pewter tankard (very old) I tried it for beer but I felt it
tainted the beer, might be my imagination.
All my pewter is at least pre-war. Some of it (stamped measures) dates
back to William III.

I've a quart tankard from (probably) an earlier date, and you wouldn't
taste much if you put beer in that: there's a nasty big 'ole near the
bottom of it innit.
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Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 01:12:39 UTC
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I've a quart tankard from (probably) an earlier date, and you wouldn't
taste much if you put beer in that: there's a nasty big 'ole near the
bottom of it innit.
mine has a crack, but non leaking
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RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:03:16 UTC
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I've a quart tankard from (probably) an earlier date, and you wouldn't
taste much if you put beer in that: there's a nasty big 'ole near the
bottom of it innit.
mine has a crack, but non leaking
You can see light through mine. (Not light ale.) I'm scheming of ways to
repair it.
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dsi1
2014-01-11 00:52:33 UTC
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Post by dsi1
I like pewter. They used to make many things out of it because it was so
easy to cast. Pewter has the unusual property of not tarnishing. Tell
your new friend to make you some plates and utensils out of the stuff.
Now that could start a trend because the metal is so retro and retro is
in. OTOH, I think there's a good chance the stuff will have lead because
it's eminently recyclable.
What is sold as 'pewter' these days is _not_ pewter, but an alloy of
tin, antimony, bismuth and copper. (More like Britannia Metal)
Pewter, to me, is mostly tin with copper and lead. I don't know about
that other new stuff.
Post by RustyHinge
Alloys always melt at a temperature below that of the melting-point of
the component with the lowest one. The more metals you add, the lower
the melting-point will be.
(See eutectic mixtures.)
Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
I doubt that people much cared about all that 200 years ago.
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:06:01 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Not being a toxicologist I don't know how edible the constituents of the
new 'pewter' will be, but I for one wouldn't want to use plates where
soft metal bits will be cut from the surface during the cutting of food.
I doubt that people much cared about all that 200 years ago.
Note; _New_ pewter...

Antimony is bad news it seems, and bismuth is if anything, more toxic.
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RustyHinge
2014-01-10 18:17:54 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Not decent stainless steel, then.
Post by White Spirit
Anyway,
to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made of
English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in the
alloy are considered toxic.
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
Post by White Spirit
I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable.
It doesn't surprise me - it would melt.
Post by White Spirit
I hunted high and low for one but to no avail so I found a
metalworker who agreed to create one for me for a fairly reasonable
price. He was quite amused at my insistence on having one and seemed to
think I was being a trifle obsessive but I thought it would make a nice
addition to my kitchen.
I am quite amused too. Are you _sure_ you mean pewter?
Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
I look forward to hearing...
Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
I very much doubt it. It reminds me of spoons made of Wood's metal.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
White Spirit
2014-01-10 19:16:13 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
That's wrong:

'While the term pewter covers a range of tin-based alloys, the term
English pewter has come to represent a strictly-controlled alloy,
specified by BSEN611-1 and British Standard 5140, consisting mainly of
tin (ideally 92%), with the balance made up of antimony and copper.
Significantly, it is free of lead and nickel. Although the exact
percentages vary between manufacturers, a typical standard for
present-day pewter is approximately 91% tin, 7.5% antimony and 1.5% copper.'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_pewter
Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
I look forward to hearing...
Well, I arrived home and couldn't find my new pan. My wife has made a
right mess of the stove, however, and gone out to visit her friends
leaving me to clean it up. Unfortunately, my scouring pad isn't doing a
very job of removing it and I since I don't know where the pan is in the
first place I'm just going to have take-away food instead and speak to
her about it when she gets home.
graham
2014-01-10 19:26:53 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
'While the term pewter covers a range of tin-based alloys, the term
English pewter has come to represent a strictly-controlled alloy,
specified by BSEN611-1 and British Standard 5140, consisting mainly of tin
(ideally 92%), with the balance made up of antimony and copper.
Significantly, it is free of lead and nickel. Although the exact
percentages vary between manufacturers, a typical standard for present-day
pewter is approximately 91% tin, 7.5% antimony and 1.5% copper.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_pewter
Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
I look forward to hearing...
Well, I arrived home and couldn't find my new pan. My wife has made a
right mess of the stove, however, and gone out to visit her friends
leaving me to clean it up. Unfortunately, my scouring pad isn't doing a
very job of removing it and I since I don't know where the pan is in the
first place I'm just going to have take-away food instead and speak to her
about it when she gets home.
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Graham
White Spirit
2014-01-10 19:33:01 UTC
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Post by graham
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 20:05:36 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by graham
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
It was fun while it lasted.

Who turned the gas up?
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 20:18:51 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Post by graham
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
It was fun while it lasted.
Who turned the gas up?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 22:00:35 UTC
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Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 22:08:56 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
oh bother...
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:06:52 UTC
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Post by el Crepusculo
Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
oh bother...
_You_ might say that - _I_ do.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 18:41:56 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
oh bother...
_You_ might say that - _I_ do.
Indeed.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 08:07:25 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
it appears to be a pewter frying pan on ebay
"Vintage International Silver Co Pewter 11" Octagon Skillet & Lid Fry
Pan Frying"

"This is a fabulous vintage International Silver Company pewter
skillet. It measures 11" and has two pour spouts. This has been used
and remains in very good condition." Now sold

There is another one one ebay marked "pewter?"
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Mike... . . . .
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:08:27 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-International-Silver-Co-Pewter-11-Octagon-Skillet-Lid-Fry-Pan-Frying-/331022013513
I haven't got the bandwidth here to play on the www.
it appears to be a pewter frying pan on ebay
"Vintage International Silver Co Pewter 11" Octagon Skillet & Lid Fry
Pan Frying"
"This is a fabulous vintage International Silver Company pewter
skillet. It measures 11" and has two pour spouts. This has been used
and remains in very good condition." Now sold
There is another one one ebay marked "pewter?"
Sounds more like a chocolate teapot to me.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 16:09:46 UTC
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Following a post by RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Mike.. . . .
"This is a fabulous vintage International Silver Company pewter
skillet. It measures 11" and has two pour spouts. This has been used
and remains in very good condition." Now sold
There is another one one ebay marked "pewter?"
Sounds more like a chocolate teapot to me.
mislabeled I imagine
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-10 20:30:07 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by graham
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
--
Mike... . . . .
White Spirit
2014-01-11 00:58:56 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by graham
I say old chap, keep your fantasies to yourself!
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
He felt compelled to reply.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 01:13:39 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
--
Mike... . . . .
White Spirit
2014-01-11 01:39:46 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
He got involved in the thread so by what stretch of the imagination
wasn't he reeled in?
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 08:14:01 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
He got involved in the thread so by what stretch of the imagination
wasn't he reeled in?
are you kidding? He first and only words were, to paraphrase, stop
making stuff up. You must be desperate for attention if you think that
is "reeling in". How silly.
--
Mike... . . . .
White Spirit
2014-01-11 11:46:39 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
He got involved in the thread so by what stretch of the imagination
wasn't he reeled in?
are you kidding? He first and only words were, to paraphrase, stop
making stuff up. You must be desperate for attention if you think that
is "reeling in". How silly.
You need to consider the definition of a troll.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 12:32:56 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
are you kidding? He first and only words were, to paraphrase, stop
making stuff up. You must be desperate for attention if you think that
is "reeling in". How silly.
You need to consider the definition of a troll.
my definition would have been someone who posts something
controversial to cause an artificial argument, but that seems to have
opened out to include online bullying and mindless "spam" type posts.
You were rumbled pretty quickly without any argument, that people
don't totally ignore you isnt a "win".
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
Nunya Bidnits
2014-01-11 15:36:40 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
are you kidding? He first and only words were, to paraphrase, stop
making stuff up. You must be desperate for attention if you think
that is "reeling in". How silly.
You need to consider the definition of a troll.
my definition would have been someone who posts something
controversial to cause an artificial argument, but that seems to have
opened out to include online bullying and mindless "spam" type posts.
You were rumbled pretty quickly without any argument, that people
don't totally ignore you isnt a "win".
Troll doesn't even know how to milk an offering, which is a poor troll. It
barely had made the post in question before it started gloating and doing a
victory dance. It's kinda like a runner in football who gets turned around,
runs to the wrong goalpost, and does a victory dance. Runner feels great for
a fleeting moment but looks like a fool.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 17:44:45 UTC
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Post by Nunya Bidnits
Troll doesn't even know how to milk an offering, which is a poor troll.
It barely had made the post in question before it started gloating and
doing a victory dance.
King of trolls offers lessons?
Dave Smith
2014-01-11 02:52:54 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
It's a curious thing about trolls. There are a lot of stupid people that
pop into and habituate news groups. While some get dumped on for bring
nasty to the stupid people, it is sometimes hard to tell if the person
is really that stupid or if they are just stupid trolls.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 09:38:00 UTC
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Following a post by Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
It's a curious thing about trolls. There are a lot of stupid people that
pop into and habituate news groups. While some get dumped on for bring
nasty to the stupid people, it is sometimes hard to tell if the person
is really that stupid or if they are just stupid trolls.
you have lost me slightly there! What I see is a person who is needy
to feel they have fooled people to the extend of thinking they have
when they have not. The need to fool in the first place, rather than
join in, seems possibly rather childlike, or maybe somewhat damaged,
to me?
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
White Spirit
2014-01-11 11:47:29 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
It's a curious thing about trolls. There are a lot of stupid people that
pop into and habituate news groups. While some get dumped on for bring
nasty to the stupid people, it is sometimes hard to tell if the person
is really that stupid or if they are just stupid trolls.
you have lost me slightly there! What I see is a person who is needy
to feel they have fooled people to the extend of thinking they have
when they have not. The need to fool in the first place, rather than
join in, seems possibly rather childlike, or maybe somewhat damaged,
to me?
Did I not mention that I'm autistic?
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 12:33:26 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
you have lost me slightly there! What I see is a person who is needy
to feel they have fooled people to the extend of thinking they have
when they have not. The need to fool in the first place, rather than
join in, seems possibly rather childlike, or maybe somewhat damaged,
to me?
Did I not mention that I'm autistic?
No
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:14:28 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Dave Smith
Post by Dave Smith
Post by Mike.. . . .
Post by White Spirit
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
It's a curious thing about trolls. There are a lot of stupid people that
pop into and habituate news groups. While some get dumped on for bring
nasty to the stupid people, it is sometimes hard to tell if the person
is really that stupid or if they are just stupid trolls.
you have lost me slightly there! What I see is a person who is needy
to feel they have fooled people to the extend of thinking they have
when they have not. The need to fool in the first place, rather than
join in, seems possibly rather childlike, or maybe somewhat damaged,
to me?
I think that depends how it's done, but more importantly, when.
F'rinstance, spaghetti trees and the Island of Sans Serif both fooled a
lot of people who might have remembered that the articles (one on TV)
were dated April 1st.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
Nunya Bidnits
2014-01-11 03:08:42 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
Am I missing something? Where was Graham "reeled in" , exactly?
He felt compelled to reply.
He called you, not the same thing.
Please report to the Department of Delusions and Rationalizations for troll
sensitivity training. It is not necessary for troll to be right (or right
in the head) for you to be compassionate to their needs.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 05:17:20 UTC
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Post by Nunya Bidnits
Please report to the Department of Delusions and Rationalizations for
troll sensitivity training.
Are you on call there?
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 08:15:27 UTC
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Following a post by Nunya Bidnits
Post by Nunya Bidnits
Please report to the Department of Delusions and Rationalizations for troll
sensitivity training. It is not necessary for troll to be right (or right
in the head) for you to be compassionate to their needs.
LOL
--
Mike... . . . .
TincT
2014-01-11 17:59:35 UTC
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Post by Nunya Bidnits
Please report to the Department of Delusions and Rationalizations for troll
sensitivity training. It is not necessary for troll to be right (or right
in the head) for you to be compassionate to their needs.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/alt.sports.football.pro.gb-packers/P2QjeU78LoU

Alexander_The_Goat
4/16/10
Re: ''Internet stalker'' Nunya Bidnitscaptured.


"Nunya Shitlips" <Nunya-***@webtv.net> wrote in message news:5172-4BC899D3-***@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net...

WEBTV!!! ROFL!!!!

Bla bla bla, you're so clever. NOT! ROFL! And the webtv reference....
seriously? *You're* making fun of *me* with webtv? Do you not realize that
you have just validated everyone who has laughed at you for it?

One note... you can't lay off the crossdressing stuff in your lame attempt
at humor. You got caught on it already, and we all know about it, and "I
know you are but what am I" doesn't fix it.

Now fuck off and die, you phony little pussy, and next time you decide to
start flinging shit at people outside your own back yard, try to prepare
your freeble little mind for the fact that you need to be willing to take
what you dish out, because someone may do the same thing back at you. If
you're going to keep being a pussy who wants to give shit but screams like
a
sissy baby when you get it back, you'll just spend your sad little life
going through episodes like this where your true nature is revealed to
all.

I'm done with you now, shithead. That is, unless you want more.

And unless you decide to resume making personal attacks on people who are
trying to discuss reasonable things. A little good natured banter between
rivals is fine, but you cannot seem to understand why it's offensive to
invade other forums and turn on a tirade of hateful personal attacks on
individuals. So if you go that route again, I'll be back on your ass, with
Goatboy, Ronald, and a bunch more tasty morsels. And go ahead and post all
the stupid shit you want in the Chiefs forums... you're not getting any
action because they are too smart to take your juvenile bait.... and
besides, yuou're just not funny.

Now please refrain from being an asshole and I will do the same.... or not,
your choice.

Besides, I can be a much bigger asshole than you when provoked, so do the
smart thing while you have this one opportunity at a truce.

MBKC
Dave Smith
2014-01-10 20:55:55 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
You laughed at yourself. That is nice. Some of us laughed at you too.
Not with you.
Cheri
2014-01-10 21:06:02 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
You laughed at yourself. That is nice. Some of us laughed at you too. Not
with you.
LOL
White Spirit
2014-01-11 00:52:11 UTC
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Post by Dave Smith
Post by White Spirit
Don't be bitter; you got reeled in by an 'intellectually challenged'
troll who outsmarted you. Accept it, learn to laugh at yourself (I know
I did) and move on.
You laughed at yourself. That is nice. Some of us laughed at you too.
Not with you.
Oh dear, is that the best you can do?

Are you even house-trained?
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 08:11:05 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Are you even house-trained?
is that the best *you* can do? You see, most people don't spend their
time looking out for trolling, so you can post something fairly
bizarre and get away with it for a while.You think its clever, most of
us, being oldish now, no longer care about such ego trips.
--
Mike... . . . .
White Spirit
2014-01-11 11:51:39 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Are you even house-trained?
is that the best *you* can do? You see, most people don't spend their
time looking out for trolling, so you can post something fairly
bizarre and get away with it for a while.
Fairly bizarre? I left enough deliberate contradictions in there that
anyone who took it at face value was clearly being duped.
Post by Mike.. . . .
You think its clever, most of
us, being oldish now, no longer care about such ego trips.
That must explain why you're still replying.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 12:34:42 UTC
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Following a post by White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
is that the best *you* can do? You see, most people don't spend their
time looking out for trolling, so you can post something fairly
bizarre and get away with it for a while.
Fairly bizarre? I left enough deliberate contradictions in there that
anyone who took it at face value was clearly being duped.
which you find clever <shrug>
Post by White Spirit
Post by Mike.. . . .
You think its clever, most of
us, being oldish now, no longer care about such ego trips.
That must explain why you're still replying.
you confuse caring and passing the time.
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 19:57:50 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
No it's not.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
White Spirit
2014-01-11 00:37:25 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
No it's not.
Yes it is and what's more it is an established standard.
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:18:29 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
No it's not.
Yes it is and what's more it is an established standard.
Pewter - _real_ pewter, contains lead.

Anything else can call itself what it likes, but it's _not_ pewter.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
Jane Gillett
2014-01-11 09:22:18 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Post by RustyHinge
English pewter is mainly lead, with some tin, and sometimes other
elements like abtimony and copper. (Old pewter also contains silver)
'While the term pewter covers a range of tin-based alloys, the term
English pewter has come to represent a strictly-controlled alloy,
specified by BSEN611-1 and British Standard 5140, consisting mainly of
tin (ideally 92%), with the balance made up of antimony and copper.
Significantly, it is free of lead and nickel. Although the exact
percentages vary between manufacturers, a typical standard for
present-day pewter is approximately 91% tin, 7.5% antimony and 1.5% copper.'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_pewter
Post by RustyHinge
Post by White Spirit
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
I look forward to hearing...
Well, I arrived home and couldn't find my new pan. My wife has made a
right mess of the stove, however, and gone out to visit her friends
leaving me to clean it up. Unfortunately, my scouring pad isn't doing a
very job of removing it and I since I don't know where the pan is in the
first place I'm just going to have take-away food instead and speak to
her about it when she gets home.
Was wincing at the talk of using a scouring pad on a stove, presumeably on
the enamel.

Remember when I was first married - NEW STOVE from gas board - treated it
like a baby - NEVER ANYTHING ABRASIVE on the enamel ( was a common
understanding then that until you used abrasive you wouldn't have to use it
but once you did then you scratched the surace and had to use it from then
on; makes sense). Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards but by
that time the damage was done. Would have to have been done at some time
anyway I guess!

Jane
--
Jane Gillett : ***@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
Mike.. . . .
2014-01-11 18:01:31 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards but by
that time the damage was done
our neighbours mother attacked their brushed steel cooker with a
scourer :-(
--
Mike... . . . .
'The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.'
Mahatma Gandhi
Ophelia
2014-01-11 18:50:39 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards but by
that time the damage was done
our neighbours mother attacked their brushed steel cooker with a
scourer :-(
Ouch!
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S Viemeister
2014-01-11 19:20:43 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards
but by that time the damage was done
our neighbours mother attacked their brushed steel cooker with a
scourer :-(
Ouch!
My father's mother, scrubbed my mother's silverplated utensils with
steel wool.
She had been a somewhat spoiled daughter in a well-to-do home, and _her_
knives and forks were not plated, they were silver all the way through -
she saw how shiny the steel wool got pots and pans, so...

She was just trying to be helpful.
Ophelia
2014-01-11 19:25:47 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards
but by that time the damage was done
our neighbours mother attacked their brushed steel cooker with a
scourer :-(
Ouch!
My father's mother, scrubbed my mother's silverplated utensils with steel
wool.
She had been a somewhat spoiled daughter in a well-to-do home, and _her_
knives and forks were not plated, they were silver all the way through -
she saw how shiny the steel wool got pots and pans, so...
She was just trying to be helpful.
ewwwwwwwwww:( Well at least she was trying ...:(
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S Viemeister
2014-01-11 19:48:31 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
Post by S Viemeister
Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Anyway, was horrified one morning to get up and find a
visitor happily and "helpfully" attacking the stove with Vim - like she did
her mum's. She was being helpful and terribly apologetic afterwards
but by that time the damage was done
our neighbours mother attacked their brushed steel cooker with a
scourer :-(
Ouch!
My father's mother, scrubbed my mother's silverplated utensils with
steel wool.
She had been a somewhat spoiled daughter in a well-to-do home, and
_her_ knives and forks were not plated, they were silver all the way
through - she saw how shiny the steel wool got pots and pans, so...
She was just trying to be helpful.
ewwwwwwwwww:( Well at least she was trying ...:(
She was rather upset about it. As was my mother.
Jeßus
2014-01-10 20:14:22 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:57:56 +0000, White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Anyway, to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made
of English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in
the alloy are considered toxic.
I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable. I hunted high and low for one but to no avail so I found a
metalworker who agreed to create one for me for a fairly reasonable
price. He was quite amused at my insistence on having one and seemed to
think I was being a trifle obsessive but I thought it would make a nice
addition to my kitchen.
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
Yeah. I can see why you lost your eternal-sept account.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 20:16:04 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 12:57:56 +0000, White Spirit
Post by White Spirit
I was worried about using aluminium pans due to the widely discredited
hypothesis that aluminium pans can cause Alzheimers' disease. Stainless
steel is nice but I have had problems with them rusting in the
dishwasher because I often have the salt dispenser set too high.
Anyway, to make a nice change, I thought I would buy a frying pan made
of English pewter as it is lead-free and none of the elements used in
the alloy are considered toxic.
I was very dismayed that pewter frying pans appear to be completely
unavailable. I hunted high and low for one but to no avail so I found a
metalworker who agreed to create one for me for a fairly reasonable
price. He was quite amused at my insistence on having one and seemed to
think I was being a trifle obsessive but I thought it would make a nice
addition to my kitchen.
Anyway, it arrived this morning and I am looking forward to trying it
out to-night. The metalworker did a very nice job and seems to be
taking more of an interest now because he left a note telling me to make
sure I let him know how I get on with it.
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
Yeah. I can see why you lost your eternal-sept account.
Don't you have some wabbits to kill?
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 22:04:41 UTC
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Post by el Crepusculo
Don't you have some wabbits to kill?
I don't know if _he_ does, but we've got myxie round here.

Squirrel caserole, anyone?
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To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 22:10:39 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
Don't you have some wabbits to kill?
I don't know if _he_ does, but we've got myxie round here.
Squirrel caserole, anyone?
Oz is overrun with rabbits, it's an epidemic of Tularemic proportions...
RustyHinge
2014-01-10 22:02:32 UTC
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Post by Jeßus
Yeah. I can see why you lost your eternal-sept account.
Which is why he's posting through it ATM?
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Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-10 22:08:38 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jeßus
Yeah. I can see why you lost your eternal-sept account.
Which is why he's posting through it ATM?
lol
Jeßus
2014-01-10 22:26:25 UTC
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On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 22:02:32 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jeßus
Yeah. I can see why you lost your eternal-sept account.
Which is why he's posting through it ATM?
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jeßus
My account registered to this address has been deleted and my usual nym
apparently banned due to 'internal policy'. I am a bit suprised that
this has happened as I have been careful never to violate Eternal
September's terms of service and I received no warning about my
behaviour as per the FAQ.
May I suggest that you register again.
That's probably the best route.
I tried but after one successful post to alt.english.usage, the new
account was similarly blocked so I get the impression that a decision
was made to ban me and is being enforced. I have been using this
service for many years and never had a problem before so I don't
really
understand why there is one now. Usenet can be quite murky on
occasion
but I haven't stepped outside the boundaries of what is acceptable on
any group.

My nym, 'White Spirit', has specifically been blocked as well, hence
my
reverting to a previous one from many years ago.
Hench
2014-01-11 03:06:21 UTC
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Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
This is the best troll thread in along time.

Americans are dumb....
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 05:18:37 UTC
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Post by Hench
Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
This is the best troll thread in along time.
Americans are dumb....
Limeys are servile sots.
RustyHinge
2014-01-11 13:24:44 UTC
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Post by el Crepusculo
Post by Hench
Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
This is the best troll thread in along time.
Americans are dumb....
Limeys are servile sots.
/Unfolds deck chair, erects camp table and loads it with tea and
sandwiches, and settles back to enjoy./

Anyone seen my long, sharp stick?

(no, not _that_ one...)
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To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 18:41:14 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by el Crepusculo
Post by Hench
Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
This is the best troll thread in along time.
Americans are dumb....
Limeys are servile sots.
/Unfolds deck chair, erects camp table and loads it with tea and
sandwiches, and settles back to enjoy./
Anyone seen my long, sharp stick?
(no, not _that_ one...)
I think it's on the nightstand, with your dentures, old man...
Nunya Bidnits
2014-01-11 16:51:27 UTC
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Post by Hench
Post by White Spirit
Who knows, this could start a new trend.
This is the best troll thread in along time.
Pretty pedestrian if you ask me and the troll did a terrible job of managing
its attempt. Most of the commentary was about how clueless this troll is
about trolling.
Post by Hench
Americans are dumb....
As opposed to those who make huge sweeping generalizations about people?

Just sayin'.
el Crepusculo
2014-01-11 17:47:22 UTC
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Post by Nunya Bidnits
Pretty pedestrian if you ask me and the troll did a terrible job of
managing its attempt.
Needed something more like yours:

Now please refrain from being an asshole and I will do the same.... or not,
your choice.

Besides, I can be a much bigger asshole than you when provoked, so do the
smart thing while you have this one opportunity at a truce.

MBKC
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