Discussion:
Storing bacon
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Jane Gillett
2014-11-05 08:03:44 UTC
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Good to see a post to this group. I look in most days. Don't have much
useful to say about non-stick pans I'm, afraid but have replied so that the
poster doesn't feel he's talking to himself.

However.

Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities, just
the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a butcher's
refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually unsmoked
streaky if that's relevant.

I can't find a way which serves to keep it in good condition ie smells ok
and doesn't get slimy & grow mold while, at the same time, not drying out.
I keep it in a fridge. What's the best way please? Fridge or pantry? Dries
out in pantry but there may be a suitable wrapping. Wrapped or not? In
what? I generally use the waxed paper that comes from cornflake packets.
Feel I need something more porous but can't think of anything.

Advice gratefully received;
Jane
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Ophelia
2014-11-05 11:27:04 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Good to see a post to this group. I look in most days. Don't have much
useful to say about non-stick pans I'm, afraid but have replied so that the
poster doesn't feel he's talking to himself.
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities, just
the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a butcher's
refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually unsmoked
streaky if that's relevant.
I can't find a way which serves to keep it in good condition ie smells ok
and doesn't get slimy & grow mold while, at the same time, not drying out.
I keep it in a fridge. What's the best way please? Fridge or pantry? Dries
out in pantry but there may be a suitable wrapping. Wrapped or not? In
what? I generally use the waxed paper that comes from cornflake packets.
Feel I need something more porous but can't think of anything.
When I buy packs of bacon I store in the freezer. Once out I wrap in
greaseproof paper and use fairly quickly. I found that storing in a poly
bag is the fastest way to watch it go green and stinky.
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Jane Gillett
2014-11-06 09:37:06 UTC
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Post by Ophelia
Post by Jane Gillett
Good to see a post to this group. I look in most days. Don't have much
useful to say about non-stick pans I'm, afraid but have replied so that the
poster doesn't feel he's talking to himself.
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities, just
the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a butcher's
refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually unsmoked
streaky if that's relevant.
I can't find a way which serves to keep it in good condition ie smells ok
and doesn't get slimy & grow mold while, at the same time, not drying out.
I keep it in a fridge. What's the best way please? Fridge or pantry? Dries
out in pantry but there may be a suitable wrapping. Wrapped or not? In
what? I generally use the waxed paper that comes from cornflake packets.
Feel I need something more porous but can't think of anything.
When I buy packs of bacon I store in the freezer. Once out I wrap in
greaseproof paper and use fairly quickly. I found that storing in a poly
bag is the fastest way to watch it go green and stinky.
Ah. Thankyou. MAybe the secret is to freeze in small enough quantities that
you can use up the amount you thaw before it dries out. THink I've found it
drying in greaseproof before but probably kept it too long. I tend to use
bacon as an ingredient - we don't generally have fry-ups.

Cheers, O,
Jane
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Jane Gillett : ***@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
Ophelia
2014-11-06 11:04:27 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Post by Ophelia
Post by Jane Gillett
Good to see a post to this group. I look in most days. Don't have much
useful to say about non-stick pans I'm, afraid but have replied so that the
poster doesn't feel he's talking to himself.
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities, just
the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a butcher's
refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually unsmoked
streaky if that's relevant.
I can't find a way which serves to keep it in good condition ie smells ok
and doesn't get slimy & grow mold while, at the same time, not drying out.
I keep it in a fridge. What's the best way please? Fridge or pantry? Dries
out in pantry but there may be a suitable wrapping. Wrapped or not? In
what? I generally use the waxed paper that comes from cornflake packets.
Feel I need something more porous but can't think of anything.
When I buy packs of bacon I store in the freezer. Once out I wrap in
greaseproof paper and use fairly quickly. I found that storing in a poly
bag is the fastest way to watch it go green and stinky.
Ah. Thankyou. MAybe the secret is to freeze in small enough quantities that
you can use up the amount you thaw before it dries out.
That would be more useful. Oh and I keep mine in the fridge for the short
time before I use it.

THink I've found it
Post by Jane Gillett
drying in greaseproof before but probably kept it too long. I tend to use
bacon as an ingredient - we don't generally have fry-ups.
I use it as an ingredient more too.
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graham
2014-11-06 17:59:19 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Ah. Thankyou. MAybe the secret is to freeze in small enough quantities that
you can use up the amount you thaw before it dries out. THink I've found it
drying in greaseproof before but probably kept it too long. I tend to use
bacon as an ingredient - we don't generally have fry-ups.
Cheers, O,
Jane
That's what I do. Of course I usually forget about it and it stays in
there for over a year.
Graham
Jane Gillett
2014-11-07 09:40:10 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Jane Gillett
Ah. Thankyou. MAybe the secret is to freeze in small enough quantities that
you can use up the amount you thaw before it dries out. THink I've found it
drying in greaseproof before but probably kept it too long. I tend to use
bacon as an ingredient - we don't generally have fry-ups.
Cheers, O,
Jane
That's what I do. Of course I usually forget about it and it stays in
there for over a year.
Dried up it can still be fine for something like a braise for example and
maybe moldy wouldn't hurt you but I can't say I fancy that. Of course, it
will keep in a chunk (eg side) for a long time but there it is really only
the outside which dries out.

I think I need to discipline myself to split it into small quantities when
I buy and put all but one into the freezer and one in greaseproof in the
fridge.

Thanks all,
Jane
Post by graham
Graham
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John Silver
2014-11-08 00:58:45 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Post by Ophelia
Post by Jane Gillett
Good to see a post to this group. I look in most days. Don't have much
useful to say about non-stick pans I'm, afraid but have replied so that the
poster doesn't feel he's talking to himself.
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities, just
the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a butcher's
refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually unsmoked
streaky if that's relevant.
I can't find a way which serves to keep it in good condition ie smells ok
and doesn't get slimy & grow mold while, at the same time, not drying out.
I keep it in a fridge. What's the best way please? Fridge or pantry? Dries
out in pantry but there may be a suitable wrapping. Wrapped or not? In
what? I generally use the waxed paper that comes from cornflake packets.
Feel I need something more porous but can't think of anything.
When I buy packs of bacon I store in the freezer. Once out I wrap in
greaseproof paper and use fairly quickly. I found that storing in a poly
bag is the fastest way to watch it go green and stinky.
Ah. Thankyou. MAybe the secret is to freeze in small enough quantities that
you can use up the amount you thaw before it dries out. THink I've found it
drying in greaseproof before but probably kept it too long. I tend to use
bacon as an ingredient - we don't generally have fry-ups.
Cheers, O,
Jane
We buy a two month supply of loose unsmoked bacon and wrap each weeks
separately in poly bags and freeze it. Never have any problem with its
condition.
John
Brian Reay
2014-12-10 20:54:07 UTC
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Post by John Silver
We buy a two month supply of loose unsmoked bacon and wrap each weeks
separately in poly bags and freeze it. Never have any problem with its
condition.
John
We do much the same. Never had a problem.

We used to have a 'special' Tupperware style box which had vent holes
which was excellent. I'm not sure what happened to it.

Lurkio
2014-11-28 19:00:22 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities,
just the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a
butcher's refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually
unsmoked streaky if that's relevant.
Hi, sorry for coming late to the thread.

And this might be too long for many readers ... but it's all important!

Now, I don't ever want to be accused of trying to teach my granny to
suck eggs (or store bacon!) but I had your same problem for years. I
love bacon. I eat bacon in decent quantities, but always there was the
problem of "wet" bacon becoming impossible to store for any decent
period of time.

So, I went hunting. First of all I had been buying my bacon from a local
butcher who advertised his wares as "dry cured", and he had both
unsmoked and smoked. I always prefer smoked bacon and so I bought my
bacon from him on a regular basis. The only (main!) problem I had, was
that this "dry cured" bacon still spilled white fluid/gunge into the
frying pan when I cooked it. I had my suspicions that "dry cure" in this
instance might also include some "added water".

So, I left my local butcher's bacon alone and I went online to a rather
famous butcher called "Boston Sausage .co.uk" and indeed, his smoked
bacon was truly perfection. I used to buy what the purveyor described as
"triple smoked" dry cured bacon - see here:
http://www.bostonsausage.co.uk/product/triple-smoked-dry-cured-bacon-
500g/

Initially I thought all my bacon problems were well and truly solved.
Beautiful smoked bacon, fries up in the pan with no "gunge", and not a
very expensive price for nationwide shipping, unlike some other
suppliers. *However*, they did not supply smoked streaky which is my
main favourite bacon. And then, *catastrophe*!!! I received an order
from them and when I put it into the pan, the dreaded "white gunge"
appeared. I immediately complained to Boston Sausage Co., and they were
full of apologies, 'explaining' they had been trying out a new
supplier/curer for their bacon and they now realised after many
complaints from customers that things were not as they should be, so
they were now going to revert to "home curing" their own, blah, blah,
blah ...

Hmmm ...

No good to me. Once badly let down by a food supplier I never return to
them. Food is food and should not be mucked about with in order to
increase profits which I suspect had happened with this bacon.

So, Jane, do you know where I tried next? And I have never, ever looked
back:

I now only ever buy my bacon from either Tesco or Asda, *BUT* it is only
their very expensive bacon that I do buy.

Tesco Finest Smoked Drycure Streaky Bacon 240G = £3.29, OR 2 for £5.00
or the alternative
Asda Extra Special Smoked Streaky Bacon 240g = £3.00, OR again, 2 for
£5.00
(I suspect they both have the same suppliers as the bacon is so
similar.)

To explain, I buy very little other meats from supermarkets, but this
bacon is truly bacon as bacon should be and bacon used to be. For
example, today, 28 November, I opened a tray of Tesco bacon which was
marked "Use by 19 Nov". It had been in my fridge since 30 October when
my order was delivered. When I opened the pack, it was still vacuum
sealed, no sign of blowing or anything else untoward, and all of the
bacon rashers were as dry as a bone. Today I cooked 6 rashers and had
not only the beautiful true taste of perfectly smoked bacon, but it also
fried to an absolute crisp (the way I like it) where a fork thrust into
a rasher would have made it explode across the kitchen! Of course, you
do not need to cook your bacon so crisp. Apart from that, I now have a
permanent jar of bacon drippings sitting at the side of the stove and a
life *without* bacon dripping is a life not worth living. :-)
I add the drippings to all sorts of dishes, including cornbread,
biscuits (breakfast scones) and goodness knows what else. Potatoes fried
in bacon drippings ... drool ...

And apart from that, I know for a well established fact that the
remainder of that pack of smoked streaky will keep well in the cheap
plastic bag I placed it into for well over another week. The fact is,
there is virtually *NO MOISTURE* in this bacon and it is moisture which
causes "slime" and spoilage.

I suggest that you try this bacon only once and I bet that like me, *if
you are a bacon lover* you will return again and again to buy your bacon
from one of these supermarkets, rather than from "artisan/craft"
butchers, who often promise so much but deliver short of their promises
whilst charging top dollar.

p.s. On the deal of 2 packs for £5.00, both supermarkets offer
combinations like smoked/unsmoked/streaky/back bacon to make up the
offer. I stick with the smoked streaky 'cos that's what I *LOVE*, and I
like the fact there is no waste. The only thing I *don't* like is that
both of them charge exactly the same for streaky and back bacon which is
not as it should be. A year or two back, streaky was cheaper than back,
but because the bacon is so very, very good I will live with this small
point.

I do hopes this helps you (and perhaps other bacon lovers).
Reidy Micky
2014-12-04 19:20:21 UTC
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Post by Lurkio
Hi, sorry for coming late to the thread.
And this might be too long for many readers ... but it's all important!
Oi! Yow!

Wot the feck are you doing posting sensible advice in MY newsgroup?????

GTF out of it now before I let the dogs* loose on ya! OK?

*Dogs as in "June's just biting out all over!" ROTFLl!

Lurkio, old chum, if you want to converse with anyone of importance here,
well, you just need to sign yourself up to FB, like us all, *ESPECIALLY* me!

And not only is Bob your Uncle, but we'll also leave Fanny alone to tell her
own tale, eh?

Couldn't say fairer than that, could I mate?

Ciao!

Oooooops!
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John Silver
2014-12-06 00:42:26 UTC
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Post by Lurkio
Post by Jane Gillett
However.
Does anybody have a good way of storing bacon. Not large quantities,
just the sort of amount you get in a small pile, sliced, on a
butcher's refridgerated display - about a pound or so I guess; usually
unsmoked streaky if that's relevant.
Hi, sorry for coming late to the thread.
And this might be too long for many readers ... but it's all important!
Now, I don't ever want to be accused of trying to teach my granny to
suck eggs (or store bacon!) but I had your same problem for years. I
love bacon. I eat bacon in decent quantities, but always there was the
problem of "wet" bacon becoming impossible to store for any decent
period of time.
So, I went hunting. First of all I had been buying my bacon from a local
butcher who advertised his wares as "dry cured", and he had both
unsmoked and smoked. I always prefer smoked bacon and so I bought my
bacon from him on a regular basis. The only (main!) problem I had, was
that this "dry cured" bacon still spilled white fluid/gunge into the
frying pan when I cooked it. I had my suspicions that "dry cure" in this
instance might also include some "added water".
So, I left my local butcher's bacon alone and I went online to a rather
famous butcher called "Boston Sausage .co.uk" and indeed, his smoked
bacon was truly perfection. I used to buy what the purveyor described as
http://www.bostonsausage.co.uk/product/triple-smoked-dry-cured-bacon-
500g/
Initially I thought all my bacon problems were well and truly solved.
Beautiful smoked bacon, fries up in the pan with no "gunge", and not a
very expensive price for nationwide shipping, unlike some other
suppliers. *However*, they did not supply smoked streaky which is my
main favourite bacon. And then, *catastrophe*!!! I received an order
from them and when I put it into the pan, the dreaded "white gunge"
appeared. I immediately complained to Boston Sausage Co., and they were
full of apologies, 'explaining' they had been trying out a new
supplier/curer for their bacon and they now realised after many
complaints from customers that things were not as they should be, so
they were now going to revert to "home curing" their own, blah, blah,
blah ...
Hmmm ...
No good to me. Once badly let down by a food supplier I never return to
them. Food is food and should not be mucked about with in order to
increase profits which I suspect had happened with this bacon.
So, Jane, do you know where I tried next? And I have never, ever looked
I now only ever buy my bacon from either Tesco or Asda, *BUT* it is only
their very expensive bacon that I do buy.
Tesco Finest Smoked Drycure Streaky Bacon 240G = £3.29, OR 2 for £5.00
or the alternative
Asda Extra Special Smoked Streaky Bacon 240g = £3.00, OR again, 2 for
£5.00
(I suspect they both have the same suppliers as the bacon is so
similar.)
To explain, I buy very little other meats from supermarkets, but this
bacon is truly bacon as bacon should be and bacon used to be. For
example, today, 28 November, I opened a tray of Tesco bacon which was
marked "Use by 19 Nov". It had been in my fridge since 30 October when
my order was delivered. When I opened the pack, it was still vacuum
sealed, no sign of blowing or anything else untoward, and all of the
bacon rashers were as dry as a bone. Today I cooked 6 rashers and had
not only the beautiful true taste of perfectly smoked bacon, but it also
fried to an absolute crisp (the way I like it) where a fork thrust into
a rasher would have made it explode across the kitchen! Of course, you
do not need to cook your bacon so crisp. Apart from that, I now have a
permanent jar of bacon drippings sitting at the side of the stove and a
life *without* bacon dripping is a life not worth living. :-)
I add the drippings to all sorts of dishes, including cornbread,
biscuits (breakfast scones) and goodness knows what else. Potatoes fried
in bacon drippings ... drool ...
And apart from that, I know for a well established fact that the
remainder of that pack of smoked streaky will keep well in the cheap
plastic bag I placed it into for well over another week. The fact is,
there is virtually *NO MOISTURE* in this bacon and it is moisture which
causes "slime" and spoilage.
I suggest that you try this bacon only once and I bet that like me, *if
you are a bacon lover* you will return again and again to buy your bacon
from one of these supermarkets, rather than from "artisan/craft"
butchers, who often promise so much but deliver short of their promises
whilst charging top dollar.
p.s. On the deal of 2 packs for £5.00, both supermarkets offer
combinations like smoked/unsmoked/streaky/back bacon to make up the
offer. I stick with the smoked streaky 'cos that's what I *LOVE*, and I
like the fact there is no waste. The only thing I *don't* like is that
both of them charge exactly the same for streaky and back bacon which is
not as it should be. A year or two back, streaky was cheaper than back,
but because the bacon is so very, very good I will live with this small
point.
I do hopes this helps you (and perhaps other bacon lovers).
If you ever go to Brighton this is the place for gunge free bacon

http://www.brightonandhovebizdirectory.com/dave-ovett-sons/

At one time ASDA used to sell Bacon Without the White Stuff.
John
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John
Malcolm Loades
2014-12-06 19:34:35 UTC
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Post by John Silver
If you ever go to Brighton this is the place for gunge free bacon
Or, make your own, it's really very easy. Here's how I do it
http://tinyurl.com/l3fyclt

Malcolm
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My blog is at www.afoodiediary.com
John Silver
2014-12-07 17:04:06 UTC
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Post by Malcolm Loades
Post by John Silver
If you ever go to Brighton this is the place for gunge free bacon
Or, make your own, it's really very easy. Here's how I do it
http://tinyurl.com/l3fyclt
Malcolm
Where do you keep it during curing and does the aroma fill the house?
John
Malcolm Loades
2014-12-08 11:58:35 UTC
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Post by John Silver
Post by Malcolm Loades
Post by John Silver
If you ever go to Brighton this is the place for gunge free bacon
Or, make your own, it's really very easy. Here's how I do it
http://tinyurl.com/l3fyclt
Malcolm
Where do you keep it during curing and does the aroma fill the house?
John
I cure it in a plastic box (not an air tight lid) in the larder.
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There is no smell/aroma at all during the curing process.

Malcolm
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My blog is at www.afoodiediary.com
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