Discussion:
Chilli with everything
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Jane Gillett
2013-11-03 10:32:39 UTC
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Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
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Stephen Wolstenholme
2013-11-03 14:17:17 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!

Steve
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RustyHinge
2013-11-03 17:10:28 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!
There is a limit - having said that I'm growing Jalapinos, Scotch
bonnets and nagas this coming year...
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Stephen Wolstenholme
2013-11-04 13:59:57 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:10:28 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!
There is a limit - having said that I'm growing Jalapinos, Scotch
bonnets and nagas this coming year...
I grew a huge Dorset Naga a few years ago and it is by far the hottest
chilli I'm ever likely to risk! The trouble with super hot chillis is
they hide the taste! Just one chilli made a meal too hot.

Steve
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allegoricus
2013-11-04 19:22:49 UTC
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:59:57 +0000, Stephen Wolstenholme
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:10:28 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!
There is a limit - having said that I'm growing Jalapinos, Scotch
bonnets and nagas this coming year...
I grew a huge Dorset Naga a few years ago and it is by far the hottest
chilli I'm ever likely to risk! The trouble with super hot chillis is
they hide the taste! Just one chilli made a meal too hot.
Not sure I agree about chillies masking flavour. Years ago I had a
soup in a Thai restaurant that was, even still, the hottest thing I
have ever eaten.
I persisted because te flavour was fantastic!
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Peter
RustyHinge
2013-11-04 22:09:11 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:10:28 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!
There is a limit - having said that I'm growing Jalapinos, Scotch
bonnets and nagas this coming year...
I grew a huge Dorset Naga a few years ago and it is by far the hottest
chilli I'm ever likely to risk! The trouble with super hot chillis is
they hide the taste! Just one chilli made a meal too hot.
Indeed - but these nagas are quite small. It's essential to wear
waterproof gloves and goggles when preparing them. I'm toying with the
idea of making chilli vodka with one or two...

But keeping on-topic, I have next to me a jar of chilli Bovril. A
product of Sith Effrica. Available from Out Of Africa Trading Post by
Fye Bridge.They also have Marmite-and-cheese spread from a similar source.

Bovril's OK, but IMO the Marmite is UAB. (Ugh, Arrrrgh Bleaugh!)
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Giusi
2013-11-05 17:42:51 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
But keeping on-topic, I have next to me a jar of chilli Bovril. A
product of Sith Effrica. Available from Out Of Africa Trading Post by
Fye Bridge.They also have Marmite-and-cheese spread from a similar source.
Bovril's OK, but IMO the Marmite is UAB. (Ugh, Arrrrgh Bleaugh!)
You make me laugh quite often, but I keep feeling I "knew" you under a different name?
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 17:52:30 UTC
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Post by Giusi
Post by RustyHinge
But keeping on-topic, I have next to me a jar of chilli Bovril. A
product of Sith Effrica. Available from Out Of Africa Trading Post by
Fye Bridge.They also have Marmite-and-cheese spread from a similar source.
Bovril's OK, but IMO the Marmite is UAB. (Ugh, Arrrrgh Bleaugh!)
You make me laugh quite often, but I keep feeling I "knew" you under a different name?
UAB - Sheddi term (uk.rec.sheds).

I have posted under the name of 'Macabre of Auchterloonie' and a number
of different names @ foobar.hellsuncles.co.uk and some others from
zetnet.co.uk.

Far be it from me to be frivolous, of course. Lots of waffle, mind,
especially with maple syrup.

BTW, you can make a pleasant faux maple syrup by mixing golden syrup nd
black treacle (molasses, to our Transpondian fiends^h^h^friends.
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Janet
2013-11-06 18:48:04 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
BTW, you can make a pleasant faux maple syrup by mixing golden syrup nd
black treacle (molasses, to our Transpondian fiends^h^h^friends.
The result may be pleasant, but since neither ingredient tastes
anything remotely like maple syrup I'm puzzled how combining two cane
products could produce the very different flavour of maple syrup.

Maybe in the same category as " This non-dairy spread tastes just like
butter" and " This lump of soya looks and tastes like a pork sausage/
beef burger"

Janet
RustyHinge
2013-11-07 01:34:12 UTC
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Post by Janet
Post by RustyHinge
BTW, you can make a pleasant faux maple syrup by mixing golden syrup nd
black treacle (molasses, to our Transpondian fiends^h^h^friends.
The result may be pleasant, but since neither ingredient tastes
anything remotely like maple syrup I'm puzzled how combining two cane
products could produce the very different flavour of maple syrup.
Maybe in the same category as " This non-dairy spread tastes just like
butter" and " This lump of soya looks and tastes like a pork sausage/
beef burger"
Nowhere did I imply that I couldn't tell it from the real thing.

Hinge-syrup : Maple syrup :: rabbit : hare.
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allegoricus
2013-11-07 17:34:24 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:52:30 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
BTW, you can make a pleasant faux maple syrup by mixing golden syrup nd
black treacle (molasses, to our Transpondian fiends^h^h^friends.
Really. Substitutes and blends [1] that I've tried have been just
awful.

[1] I was reminded by accident a few weeks ago when I brought home
what I thought was maple syrup, but turned out to be a blend with corn
syrup. Disgusting.
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Peter
RustyHinge
2013-11-07 20:32:12 UTC
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Post by allegoricus
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 17:52:30 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
BTW, you can make a pleasant faux maple syrup by mixing golden syrup nd
black treacle (molasses, to our Transpondian fiends^h^h^friends.
Really. Substitutes and blends [1] that I've tried have been just
awful.
[1] I was reminded by accident a few weeks ago when I brought home
what I thought was maple syrup, but turned out to be a blend with corn
syrup. Disgusting.
Mostly golden syrup with a dash of treacle...

Corn syrup is suspect from a health viewpoint. Far better to turn it
into incohol.
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W.A. Sawford
2013-11-05 11:54:06 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I grew a huge Dorset Naga a few years ago and it is by far the hottest
chilli I'm ever likely to risk! The trouble with super hot chillis is
they hide the taste! Just one chilli made a meal too hot.
Steve
Yes I quite agree on the super hots. We grew some sort of Jolokia a couple
of years ago, and it frankly tasted of diesel. I love chillies in general
but this was so hot you could only use a small piece of the chilli at one
time. Plus it tasted vile anyway. The hottest chilli we grow now is
Fatali, which has a gorgeous flavour. But there are many other varieties
worth growing for flavour as well as heat, or even just flavour with a
little tingle. Love 'em all!

Wendy
Jane Gillett
2013-11-05 09:09:06 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:10:28 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Jane
I like chilli a lot and thus agree it should be added to most savory
foods. For me chillis have a great flavour though some varieties are
quite fiery!
There is a limit - having said that I'm growing Jalapinos, Scotch
bonnets and nagas this coming year...
I grew a huge Dorset Naga a few years ago and it is by far the hottest
chilli I'm ever likely to risk! The trouble with super hot chillis is
they hide the taste! Just one chilli made a meal too hot.
Yes as a general principle. I feel like that about curries. For me, a hot
curry is just that - hot. WHen the heat element is less obtrusive you can
enjoy the other flavours.
Jane
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Steve
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Mike.. . . .
2013-11-06 13:13:25 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
. For me, a hot
curry is just that - hot. WHen the heat element is less obtrusive you can
enjoy the other flavours.
chili is a "thin" flavour, other things come through. However, some
other indian curry spices (cumin) are not.
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Phil C.
2013-11-06 14:38:05 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
. For me, a hot
curry is just that - hot. WHen the heat element is less obtrusive you can
enjoy the other flavours.
chili is a "thin" flavour, other things come through. However, some
other indian curry spices (cumin) are not.
I'd agree (by and large) but it may depend on genes etc. etc. so we
can't state it as fact.
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Jane Gillett
2013-11-07 09:05:57 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
. For me, a hot
curry is just that - hot. WHen the heat element is less obtrusive you can
enjoy the other flavours.
chili is a "thin" flavour, other things come through. However, some
other indian curry spices (cumin) are not.
I'd agree (by and large) but it may depend on genes etc. etc. so we
can't state it as fact.
Seems likely; there are some flavours which some people hate and others
can't detect at all. Weel, one at least although I can't remember what.
Could probably find out from medic if important.
Cheers
jane
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Jane Gillett
2013-11-07 09:04:28 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
. For me, a hot
curry is just that - hot. WHen the heat element is less obtrusive you can
enjoy the other flavours.
chili is a "thin" flavour, other things come through.
Not for me by my experience; I enjoy more other flavours if I'm not trying
to survive the fire.
Cheers
jane> However, some
Post by Mike.. . . .
other indian curry spices (cumin) are not.
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Janet
2013-11-03 14:43:51 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything.
I haven't seen anything that confirms either your feeling or the
existence of such a fashion.

Janet.
RustyHinge
2013-11-03 17:15:42 UTC
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Post by Janet
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything.
I haven't seen anything that confirms either your feeling or the
existence of such a fashion.
Whereas years ago you generally had to use dried chillis, more and more
shops stock them, and with swelling numbers of Indian, Pakistani,
Bangladeshi, Chinese outletsthey are becoming a staple.

I don't use them in everything and have yet to try chilli and
strawberries or chilli with chocolate, but watch this space...
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Stephen Wolstenholme
2013-11-04 14:02:21 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:15:42 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Janet
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything.
I haven't seen anything that confirms either your feeling or the
existence of such a fashion.
Whereas years ago you generally had to use dried chillis, more and more
shops stock them, and with swelling numbers of Indian, Pakistani,
Bangladeshi, Chinese outletsthey are becoming a staple.
I don't use them in everything and have yet to try chilli and
strawberries or chilli with chocolate, but watch this space...
A friend gave me a bar of chilli chocolate for my birthday. I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.

Steve
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Phil C.
2013-11-04 16:30:49 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than
that <shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be
tomatoes with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in
heaven but seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried
basil, which is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes
and biscuits in certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet
and sour is perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
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Phil C.
Mike.. . . .
2013-11-04 16:37:29 UTC
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Following a post by Phil C.
Post by Phil C.
Any others?
ham and pineapple?
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Tim C.
2013-11-04 16:40:53 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
ham and pineapple?
Yummy
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Mike.. . . .
2013-11-04 17:09:35 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
ham and pineapple?
Yummy
eggs or oninons with vinegar.
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Tim C.
2013-11-05 08:07:17 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Tim C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
ham and pineapple?
Yummy
eggs or oninons with vinegar.
Pickled onions yummy. Pickled eggs yuck!
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W.A. Sawford
2013-11-05 11:55:18 UTC
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Post by Tim C.
Pickled onions yummy. Pickled eggs yuck!
No no no - Pickled eggs yummy too!

Wendy
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 17:55:20 UTC
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Post by W.A. Sawford
Post by Tim C.
Pickled onions yummy. Pickled eggs yuck!
No no no - Pickled eggs yummy too!
Pickled eggs- UAB!
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Phil C.
2013-11-05 12:19:57 UTC
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Post by Tim C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Tim C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
ham and pineapple?
Yummy
eggs or oninons with vinegar.
Pickled onions yummy. Pickled eggs yuck!
Fresh walnuts yummy. Pickled walnuts yuck.
Fresh cucumber dull. Pickled cucumber yummy.
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Phil C.
Tim C.
2013-11-05 12:26:55 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Tim C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Tim C.
Post by Mike.. . . .
ham and pineapple?
Yummy
eggs or oninons with vinegar.
Pickled onions yummy. Pickled eggs yuck!
Fresh walnuts yummy. Pickled walnuts yuck.
Fresh cucumber dull. Pickled cucumber yummy.
+1
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Mike.. . . .
2013-11-06 13:14:55 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Fresh cucumber dull.
no way!!! Really, no way at all.
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W.A. Sawford
2013-11-06 15:41:51 UTC
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Following a post by Phil C.
Post by Phil C.
Fresh cucumber dull.
no way!!! Really, no way at all.
If homegrown then completely yummy. If supermarket then I'd have to say
searingly dull.

Wendy
Mike.. . . .
2013-11-06 17:32:08 UTC
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Post by W.A. Sawford
If homegrown then completely yummy. If supermarket then I'd have to say
searingly dull.
I agree homegrown ridge cucumber is superior, but supermarket cuc'
still has *loads* of flavour.
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W.A. Sawford
2013-11-07 09:36:54 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by W.A. Sawford
Post by W.A. Sawford
If homegrown then completely yummy. If supermarket then I'd have to say
searingly dull.
I agree homegrown ridge cucumber is superior, but supermarket cuc'
still has *loads* of flavour.
Do you think so? I haven't noticed much flavour in the Tescoid cukes.

Wendy
Mike.. . . .
2013-11-07 16:17:13 UTC
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Post by W.A. Sawford
Post by Mike.. . . .
I agree homegrown ridge cucumber is superior, but supermarket cuc'
still has *loads* of flavour.
Do you think so?
Yep, including Tescos. Cuk isn't a low flavour veg IMHO. But has been
said, we do not all taste the same.
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RustyHinge
2013-11-07 20:34:34 UTC
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Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by W.A. Sawford
Post by W.A. Sawford
Post by Mike.. . . .
I agree homegrown ridge cucumber is superior, but supermarket cuc'
still has *loads* of flavour.
Do you think so?
Yep, including Tescos. Cuk isn't a low flavour veg IMHO. But has been
said, we do not all taste the same.
Fee-fi-fo-fum: I'm just going out for an Indian?
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RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:15:43 UTC
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Post by W.A. Sawford
If homegrown then completely yummy. If supermarket then I'd have to say
searingly dull.
<pupil at Shipman Road School, West 'Am>

'queuecombre'

</pupil>

You don't buy so-called 'fresh' veg at stupormarkets, do you?

Excluding Iceland, the only thing I've bought from a stupormarket in the
last two years is some unhomogenised Channel Islands milk, a jar of
Tesco French mustard and 2 litres of Gordons Dry Gin at £15/litre.

Now the Naaardge town centre Tesco has stopped stocking the milk, I've
stopped going there.
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graham
2013-11-06 19:45:07 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by W.A. Sawford
If homegrown then completely yummy. If supermarket then I'd have to say
searingly dull.
<pupil at Shipman Road School, West 'Am>
'queuecombre'
</pupil>
You don't buy so-called 'fresh' veg at stupormarkets, do you?
Excluding Iceland, the only thing I've bought from a stupormarket in the
last two years is some unhomogenised Channel Islands milk, a jar of Tesco
French mustard and 2 litres of Gordons Dry Gin at £15/litre.
Now the Naaardge town centre Tesco has stopped stocking the milk, I've
stopped going there.
Go to the Ipsich one!
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:04:11 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Fresh cucumber dull.
no way!!! Really, no way at all.
I think Phil eats the wrapper, not the contents.
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RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:03:05 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Fresh walnuts yummy. Pickled walnuts yuck.
Fresh cucumber dull. Pickled cucumber yummy.
(Fresh) pickling-aged walnuts: slice thinly. Third fill a jar with them
and add enough sugar to fill interstaces between slices.

Shake, and infill again with sugar.

Top-up jar with spirit of your choice. Allow to steep for three months.
Decant.

The fluid resembles creosote but tastes rather better.

Fresh cucumber yummy, (dill)-pickled cucumber, yummy.
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graham
2013-11-04 17:01:59 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than that
<shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be tomatoes
with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in heaven but
seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried basil, which
is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes and biscuits in
certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet and sour is
perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
--
Avocado with strawberries.
Graham
allegoricus
2013-11-05 08:58:14 UTC
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Post by graham
Post by Phil C.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than that
<shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be tomatoes
with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in heaven but
seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried basil, which
is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes and biscuits in
certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet and sour is
perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
--
Avocado with strawberries.
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
--
Peter
Martin
2013-11-05 09:21:59 UTC
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On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 08:58:14 +0000, allegoricus
Post by allegoricus
Post by graham
Post by Phil C.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than that
<shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be tomatoes
with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in heaven but
seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried basil, which
is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes and biscuits in
certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet and sour is
perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
--
Avocado with strawberries.
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
Tomatoes with sugar.
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Ophelia
2013-11-05 10:04:41 UTC
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Post by Martin
On Tue, 05 Nov 2013 08:58:14 +0000, allegoricus
Post by allegoricus
Post by graham
Post by Phil C.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than that
<shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be tomatoes
with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in heaven but
seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried basil, which
is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes and biscuits in
certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet and sour is
perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
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Avocado with strawberries.
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
Tomatoes with sugar.
My grandmother used to eat them like that:)
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RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:26:09 UTC
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Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
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Jane Gillett
2013-11-07 09:17:04 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
We never put sugar in sloe gin; we follow a "recipe" found in an old house
in Gerrards Cross near London when friends bought it and cleared it.

Just sloes and gin.
Prick the sloes with a silver needle - well, that's what it said, we just
freeze and thaw.
Fill a bottle with the sloes and add gin until it reaches the top; cover.
Put in (preferably) a cool wine cellar or approximation of for at least a
few months and more likely a couple of years (when you come across it or
remember it's there as I said).

Clean fresh taste. makes a nice apperatif.

Cheers
jane
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Kev
2013-11-07 12:11:49 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
We never put sugar in sloe gin; we follow a "recipe" found in an old house
in Gerrards Cross near London when friends bought it and cleared it.
Just sloes and gin.
Prick the sloes with a silver needle - well, that's what it said, we just
freeze and thaw.
Fill a bottle with the sloes and add gin until it reaches the top; cover.
Put in (preferably) a cool wine cellar or approximation of for at least a
few months and more likely a couple of years (when you come across it or
remember it's there as I said).
Clean fresh taste. makes a nice apperatif.
Cheers
jane
No sugar! Strewth that would be a "dry" drink - very "adult" and
"sophisticated"!
RustyHinge
2013-11-07 14:57:25 UTC
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Post by Kev
No sugar! Strewth that would be a "dry" drink - very "adult" and
"sophisticated"!
Gives a whole new meaning to 'slow gin'...

(BTW, DYAUTYA starts with 'draws' and ends with 'armpits', just in case
anyone was wondering...
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Jane Gillett
2013-11-08 09:30:07 UTC
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Post by Kev
Post by Jane Gillett
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
We never put sugar in sloe gin; we follow a "recipe" found in an old house
in Gerrards Cross near London when friends bought it and cleared it.
Just sloes and gin.
Prick the sloes with a silver needle - well, that's what it said, we just
freeze and thaw.
Fill a bottle with the sloes and add gin until it reaches the top; cover.
Put in (preferably) a cool wine cellar or approximation of for at least a
few months and more likely a couple of years (when you come across it or
remember it's there as I said).
Clean fresh taste. makes a nice apperatif.
Cheers
jane
No sugar! Strewth that would be a "dry" drink - very "adult" and
"sophisticated"!
Dry - yes. Dunno about adult and sophisticated. We'd never tasted sloe gin,
not sure we'd even heard of it, before we came across this recipe and tried
it as there were sloes by the cartload around and it seemed a pity not to
use some. Liked it as a refreshing apperatif or even after a meal.
Subsequently tried some commercial sloe gin which had sugar and didn't like
it much but haven't tried home-made.

Cheers
jane
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RustyHinge
2013-11-08 22:00:36 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Dry - yes. Dunno about adult and sophisticated. We'd never tasted sloe gin,
not sure we'd even heard of it, before we came across this recipe and tried
it as there were sloes by the cartload around and it seemed a pity not to
use some. Liked it as a refreshing apperatif or even after a meal.
Subsequently tried some commercial sloe gin which had sugar and didn't like
it much but haven't tried home-made.
Commercial stuff (IME) is made from gin, sugar and dried sloes, and is a
pretty poor imitation of the real thing.

One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
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Martin
2013-11-08 22:38:12 UTC
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On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:00:36 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jane Gillett
Dry - yes. Dunno about adult and sophisticated. We'd never tasted sloe gin,
not sure we'd even heard of it, before we came across this recipe and tried
it as there were sloes by the cartload around and it seemed a pity not to
use some. Liked it as a refreshing apperatif or even after a meal.
Subsequently tried some commercial sloe gin which had sugar and didn't like
it much but haven't tried home-made.
Commercial stuff (IME) is made from gin, sugar and dried sloes, and is a
pretty poor imitation of the real thing.
One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
Shouldn't you be distilling your own gin too?
--
Martin in Zuid Holland
RustyHinge
2013-11-09 10:34:43 UTC
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Post by Martin
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:00:36 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
Shouldn't you be distilling your own gin too?
Not according to HM Customs and Excise
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Martin
2013-11-09 11:37:48 UTC
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On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:34:43 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:00:36 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
Shouldn't you be distilling your own gin too?
Not according to HM Customs and Excise
HMC&E no longer exists. Get the still going.
--
Martin in Zuid Holland
Jane Gillett
2013-11-09 08:10:21 UTC
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Post by Martin
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:00:36 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jane Gillett
Dry - yes. Dunno about adult and sophisticated. We'd never tasted sloe gin,
not sure we'd even heard of it, before we came across this recipe and tried
it as there were sloes by the cartload around and it seemed a pity not to
use some. Liked it as a refreshing apperatif or even after a meal.
Subsequently tried some commercial sloe gin which had sugar and didn't like
it much but haven't tried home-made.
Commercial stuff (IME) is made from gin, sugar and dried sloes, and is a
pretty poor imitation of the real thing.
One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
Shouldn't you be distilling your own gin too?
Wouldn't HMGvmt have something to say?
Cheers
jane
--
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RustyHinge
2013-11-10 10:32:44 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Post by Martin
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 22:00:36 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Jane Gillett
Dry - yes. Dunno about adult and sophisticated. We'd never tasted sloe gin,
not sure we'd even heard of it, before we came across this recipe and tried
it as there were sloes by the cartload around and it seemed a pity not to
use some. Liked it as a refreshing apperatif or even after a meal.
Subsequently tried some commercial sloe gin which had sugar and didn't like
it much but haven't tried home-made.
Commercial stuff (IME) is made from gin, sugar and dried sloes, and is a
pretty poor imitation of the real thing.
One year there were so many sloes about that I made (IIRC) 3 gallons of
sloe gin - not all at once - couldn't afford that - but several batches
from sloes bagged-up in the freezer.
Shouldn't you be distilling your own gin too?
Wouldn't HMGvmt have something to say?
Who told - er - who would tell HMG?

Atcherly, I've been told (on good authorititty that the dibblery aren't
interested unless you're a) molishing it by the bucket and b) flogging it.

I have a certain reputation for whinemolishing - sorry, Shedspeak again
- winemaking, 'cos demijohns and semidemijohns are often to be seen
peeping out of sunnyfacing windows, and blowing bubbles at observers.

One day around 1978, local Sgt Dibble came round to check my armoury and
asked my advice about distilling the stuff. I guessed that he was
fishing, but gave him the best advice I could: "I don't, and if I were
you I wouldn't even think about it. If you were caught you'd be done by
HM C&E. That would mean a big fine and possible imprisonment as you're
supposed to set an example to us lesser mortals. This would lead to your
dismissal and inevitable loss of pension.

"Don't even *think* about it."
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RustyHinge
2013-11-07 14:54:12 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
We never put sugar in sloe gin; we follow a "recipe" found in an old house
in Gerrards Cross near London when friends bought it and cleared it.
Just sloes and gin.
Prick the sloes with a silver needle - well, that's what it said, we just
freeze and thaw.
Fill a bottle with the sloes and add gin until it reaches the top; cover.
Put in (preferably) a cool wine cellar or approximation of for at least a
few months and more likely a couple of years (when you come across it or
remember it's there as I said).
Clean fresh taste. makes a nice apperatif.
Well, it would . DYAUTYA I'd guess.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
allegoricus
2013-11-07 17:42:12 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:26:09 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Martin
Tomatoes with sugar.
UAB! I looked for some sugar last night to get thesloe gin going, and
found none. (I take sugar in very little: making lemon or lime cordial
is the main target.)
Funnily enough I bought sugar today. The first time this year, I
think. Most is consumed in tea & coffee by visitors.
--
Peter
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:21:46 UTC
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Post by allegoricus
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
Sliced strawberries and sugar, steeped in whisky as per sloe gin.
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allegoricus
2013-11-07 17:43:30 UTC
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On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:21:46 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by allegoricus
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
Sliced strawberries and sugar, steeped in whisky as per sloe gin.
Bugger, just noticed coarse-ground.

That's tonight's sleep gone for a burton...
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Peter
RustyHinge
2013-11-07 20:37:24 UTC
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Post by allegoricus
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:21:46 +0000, RustyHinge
Post by RustyHinge
Post by allegoricus
Strawberries with course-ground black pepper.
Sliced strawberries and sugar, steeped in whisky as per sloe gin.
Bugger, just noticed coarse-ground.
That's tonight's sleep gone for a burton...
An obvious occasion for a cheese and cucumber sandwich.
--
Rusty Hinge
To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer and the BOFH.
RustyHinge
2013-11-04 22:11:40 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
That's an interesting topic - what flavours are deemed to mix well and
why. I don't /mind/ a bit of chilli with chocolate, but no more than
that <shrug>. Examples where I just don't go with the flow would be
tomatoes with fresh basil, which is deemed to be a marriage made in
heaven but seems nothing special to me (unlike with the despised dried
basil, which is delicious) and cinnamon with sweet, as in endless cakes
and biscuits in certain countries. Cinnamon as a mediator between sweet
and sour is perfect, though IMO.
Any others?
Mushroom and nutmeg gets the thumbs-up here.
--
Rusty Hinge
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Janet
2013-11-05 00:41:14 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Mushroom and nutmeg gets the thumbs-up here.
Yesssss!

Janet.
Phil C.
2013-11-05 12:28:07 UTC
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Post by Janet
Post by RustyHinge
Mushroom and nutmeg gets the thumbs-up here.
Yesssss!
I don't get very much from nutmeg. I never used to cook with it.
--
Phil C.
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:19:52 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Janet
Post by RustyHinge
Mushroom and nutmeg gets the thumbs-up here.
Yesssss!
I don't get very much from nutmeg. I never used to cook with it.
You *must* grate it freshly. You don't get much nutmeg flavour from it
sometimes, but it can modify the base flavour.
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Janet
2013-11-04 18:31:56 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
A friend gave me a bar of chilli chocolate for my birthday. I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
Love it. I don't eat chocolate often but when I do, its usually chilli
choc, made locally.

Hardly a newfangled craze, though. The Aztecs combined chilli with
chocolate four thousand years ago.

Janet
RustyHinge
2013-11-04 22:13:06 UTC
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Post by Janet
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
A friend gave me a bar of chilli chocolate for my birthday. I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
Love it. I don't eat chocolate often but when I do, its usually chilli
choc, made locally.
Hardly a newfangled craze, though. The Aztecs combined chilli with
chocolate four thousand years ago.
*I* don't remember that far back.

(D&RFC)
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Janet
2013-11-05 00:39:53 UTC
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Post by RustyHinge
Post by Janet
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
A friend gave me a bar of chilli chocolate for my birthday. I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
Love it. I don't eat chocolate often but when I do, its usually chilli
choc, made locally.
Hardly a newfangled craze, though. The Aztecs combined chilli with
chocolate four thousand years ago.
*I* don't remember that far back.
(D&RFC)
Four thousand years of short-term memory loss, eh? But think how much
pension you've collected, if only you could remember where...

Janet
RustyHinge
2013-11-06 18:28:28 UTC
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Post by Janet
Post by RustyHinge
Post by Janet
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
A friend gave me a bar of chilli chocolate for my birthday. I love
chilli and love chocolate but not together. Some things don't mix.
Love it. I don't eat chocolate often but when I do, its usually chilli
choc, made locally.
Hardly a newfangled craze, though. The Aztecs combined chilli with
chocolate four thousand years ago.
*I* don't remember that far back.
(D&RFC)
Four thousand years of short-term memory loss, eh? But think how much
pension you've collected, if only you could remember where...
<looks in teapot> Nope. </looks>
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Mike.. . . .
2013-11-04 14:26:41 UTC
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Following a post by Janet
Post by Janet
I haven't seen anything that confirms either your feeling or the
existence of such a fashion.
my favourite biscuit is the Fudges chilli one. That sort of thing
wasn't around 20 years ago. You can now find chillis on things like
pizza and in British sausages. So I do see chilli coming into
"fashion".

British chiliis:-
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/0/23794962>
"Twenty years ago when we started it was a crazy thing to do," says
chilli farmer Joy Michaud, describing setting up her business with her
husband Michael in 1994.
"People didn't eat chillies. People didn't know what to do with them.
It was a very exotic thing."
Now the Michauds breed chillies and sell seeds and plants online via
their company Sea Spring Seeds based in Dorchester, Dorset, and have
seen a big increase in interest over the years.
"In the last 20 years British diets have changed," says Ms Michaud."

The use of chilli in Indian food has also come into fashion since
about the 16th Century, replacing pepper as the "in" thing.

On chilli and chocolate, the Incas first combined the two but it didnt
reach UK till recently.
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Ophelia
2013-11-03 14:14:23 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
Well given we don't like it at all ...
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Paul Corfield
2013-11-03 18:10:35 UTC
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On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
I think the issue relates to trends in TV programmes. There is the
long lasting UK love affair with curries and more and more programming
relating to cooking curries plus the wide range of different curries
from across Asia that are still being discovered. For example the
re-run of Rick Stein's India series was interesting and I had a go at
cooking a squid curry he did and jolly nice it was too. It needed lots
of chillis!

The other trends have been Caribbean food, Mexican food plus a
smattering of American recipes which will have the inevitable
"tex-mex", Southern states influence. There have also been several
"street food" series on satellite telly some of which feature daft
competitions to eat ludicrously hot chilli based dishes. If you watch
this stuff then you will certainly detect chillis in everything. It
also only natural that more mainstream media like TV news and
newspapers will also pick up on these trends.

The other angle is that more and more people have realised they grow
chillis for themselves. People will want to use them in recipes if
they've succeeded in growing them.

I certainly don't add chilli to dishes randomly. I'll use them when it
makes sense to include them in dishes which require them be it
Chinese, Indian, Thai, Italian etc. I like spicy food but I'm not
really a "death by chilli" advocate.
--
Paul C
Jane Gillett
2013-11-04 08:31:31 UTC
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Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Sun, 03 Nov 2013 10:32:39 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
Post by Jane Gillett
Following a post in the "Food Taster" thread, it brings to mind a feeling
of mine that there's a fashion ATM for adding chilli to everything. A
little chilli is nice in some things but its use seems a bit heavyhanded at
times.
Do others feel the same?
I think the issue relates to trends in TV programmes. There is the
long lasting UK love affair with curries and more and more programming
relating to cooking curries plus the wide range of different curries
from across Asia that are still being discovered. For example the
re-run of Rick Stein's India series was interesting and I had a go at
cooking a squid curry he did and jolly nice it was too. It needed lots
of chillis!
The other trends have been Caribbean food, Mexican food plus a
smattering of American recipes which will have the inevitable
"tex-mex", Southern states influence. There have also been several
"street food" series on satellite telly some of which feature daft
competitions to eat ludicrously hot chilli based dishes. If you watch
this stuff then you will certainly detect chillis in everything. It
also only natural that more mainstream media like TV news and
newspapers will also pick up on these trends.
I don't generally watch TV cookery programmes because of the following
habits irritate:
. The modern "need" to make everything competitive;
. The modern trend to have artificial time limits (actually this seems more
prevalent in archeology than cookery ATM I must admit).
. The fashion for having to have an unrelated "celebrity" present;
And the major one -
. The tendency to always show you the cook's face when they are talking
about what is going on in the pot and the pot is what you need to see. This
is common in other areas and seems to be an essential part of "exciting
television" these days. Although, come to think about it, it did happen in
the past. I remember listening to the moon landing on the radio (didn't
have tv) and the presenter was wittering on about something and suddenly we
got "oh - they're down"; the producer or whoever was more interested in the
commentary than what was going on so we missed the actual touchdown.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
The other angle is that more and more people have realised they grow
chillis for themselves. People will want to use them in recipes if
they've succeeded in growing them.
Sure. No problem with people's home cooking; you cook what you like and if
it happens to be, say, ice-cream in your mashed potato then I say
"Enjoy!". I was really talking about bought foods and chillis don't belong
in <everything>, particularly sweet/fruity food to my taste.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I certainly don't add chilli to dishes randomly.
That's what appears to be happening at present.
Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
I'll use them when it
makes sense to include them in dishes which require them be it
Chinese, Indian, Thai, Italian etc. I like spicy food but I'm not
really a "death by chilli" advocate.
Agreed.
As you say, one of the reasons may well be the interest in imported food
types.
Cheers
Jane
Jane
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Phil C.
2013-11-04 12:58:53 UTC
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Post by Jane Gillett
I don't generally watch TV cookery programmes because of the following
.. The modern "need" to make everything competitive;
.. The modern trend to have artificial time limits (actually this seems more
prevalent in archeology than cookery ATM I must admit).
.. The fashion for having to have an unrelated "celebrity" present;
And the major one -
.. The tendency to always show you the cook's face when they are talking
about what is going on in the pot and the pot is what you need to see. This
is common in other areas and seems to be an essential part of "exciting
television" these days. Although, come to think about it, it did happen in
the past. I remember listening to the moon landing on the radio (didn't
have tv) and the presenter was wittering on about something and suddenly we
got "oh - they're down"; the producer or whoever was more interested in the
commentary than what was going on so we missed the actual touchdown.
I watch them over breakfast because they're the only broadcasting that
wife and I both find bearable, with generous use of fast-forward. Its
the only "junk" TV we ever watch. I agree with all your points, though.
I especially hate the constant looming close-up, unflattering faces in
BBC productions. I would add to your list the "reality TV" aspect -
sometimes more like Big Brother than cooking. I like competitive element
in a real skill, though, much as I like sport I suppose.
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Janet
2013-11-04 18:25:13 UTC
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Post by Phil C.
Post by Jane Gillett
I don't generally watch TV cookery programmes because of the following
.. The modern "need" to make everything competitive;
.. The modern trend to have artificial time limits (actually this seems more
prevalent in archeology than cookery ATM I must admit).
.. The fashion for having to have an unrelated "celebrity" present;
And the major one -
.. The tendency to always show you the cook's face when they are talking
about what is going on in the pot and the pot is what you need to see. This
is common in other areas and seems to be an essential part of "exciting
television" these days. Although, come to think about it, it did happen in
the past. I remember listening to the moon landing on the radio (didn't
have tv) and the presenter was wittering on about something and suddenly we
got "oh - they're down"; the producer or whoever was more interested in the
commentary than what was going on so we missed the actual touchdown.
I watch them over breakfast because they're the only broadcasting that
wife and I both find bearable, with generous use of fast-forward. Its
the only "junk" TV we ever watch. I agree with all your points, though.
I especially hate the constant looming close-up, unflattering faces in
BBC productions. I would add to your list the "reality TV" aspect -
sometimes more like Big Brother than cooking. I like competitive element
in a real skill, though, much as I like sport I suppose.
Watch out for Nigel Slater programs (on BBC). Just him; no celebs, no
contestants, no rush, no close faces, no personality cult. Good food.

Janet
Phil C.
2013-11-05 16:41:32 UTC
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I don't generally watch TV cookery programmes because of the following
.. The modern "need" to make everything competitive;
.. The modern trend to have artificial time limits (actually this seems more
prevalent in archeology than cookery ATM I must admit).
.. The fashion for having to have an unrelated "celebrity" present;
And the major one -
.. The tendency to always show you the cook's face when they are talking
about what is going on in the pot and the pot is what you need to see. This
is common in other areas and seems to be an essential part of "exciting
television" these days. Although, come to think about it, it did happen in
the past. I remember listening to the moon landing on the radio (didn't
have tv) and the presenter was wittering on about something and suddenly we
got "oh - they're down"; the producer or whoever was more interested in the
commentary than what was going on so we missed the actual touchdown.
I watch them over breakfast because they're the only broadcasting that
wife and I both find bearable, with generous use of fast-forward. Its
the only "junk" TV we ever watch. I agree with all your points, though.
I especially hate the constant looming close-up, unflattering faces in
BBC productions. I would add to your list the "reality TV" aspect -
sometimes more like Big Brother than cooking. I like competitive element
in a real skill, though, much as I like sport I suppose.
Watch out for Nigel Slater programs (on BBC). Just him; no celebs, no
contestants, no rush, no close faces, no personality cult. Good food.
Thanks (belated). I've set him to record. I rather lost interest in new
recipes since I had to give up cooking. Wife a good cook but not
passionate hobbyist (and veggie, though she cooks meat for me). But we
eat and sometimes entertain so some new ideas without the personality
cult would be good.
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Phil C.
Jane Gillett
2013-11-05 09:07:20 UTC
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I don't generally watch TV cookery programmes because of the following
.. The modern "need" to make everything competitive;
.. The modern trend to have artificial time limits (actually this seems more
prevalent in archeology than cookery ATM I must admit).
.. The fashion for having to have an unrelated "celebrity" present;
And the major one -
.. The tendency to always show you the cook's face when they are talking
about what is going on in the pot and the pot is what you need to see. This
is common in other areas and seems to be an essential part of "exciting
television" these days. Although, come to think about it, it did happen in
the past. I remember listening to the moon landing on the radio (didn't
have tv) and the presenter was wittering on about something and suddenly we
got "oh - they're down"; the producer or whoever was more interested in the
commentary than what was going on so we missed the actual touchdown.
I watch them over breakfast because they're the only broadcasting that
wife and I both find bearable, with generous use of fast-forward. Its
the only "junk" TV we ever watch. I agree with all your points, though.
I especially hate the constant looming close-up, unflattering faces in
BBC productions. I would add to your list the "reality TV" aspect -
sometimes more like Big Brother than cooking. I like competitive element
in a real skill, though, much as I like sport I suppose.
Watch out for Nigel Slater programs (on BBC). Just him; no celebs, no
contestants, no rush, no close faces, no personality cult. Good food.
Thanks. I will.
Jane
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Janet
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Mike.. . . .
2013-11-04 13:38:23 UTC
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Do others feel the same?
I think there's more chilli, but once there was none. Not sure what
makes normal?
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