Anyone know if/where I might get an oven that is heated by a hob?

[Chris Green]

Once upon a time a very long time ago we had an oven that sat on the
top of a paraffin stove. That's a paraffin stove as in one used for
cooking, we had a cottage with no gas or electricity and thus depended
on paraffin for heating, light, cooking, etc.

I'm wondering if such an old-fashined and basic oven is still
available and could be placed on a gas hob. I realise it's not going
to be able to do 'fast' roasting but we managed some quite good 'slow
roast' meals on our paraffin stove top oven.

So any pointers to 'hob top ovens' would be welcome. My attempts at
searching for such a thing came up with nothing except loads of places
that sell hobs and ovens.

[S Viemeister]

Post by Chris Green
Once upon a time a very long time ago we had an oven that sat on the
top of a paraffin stove. That's a paraffin stove as in one used for
cooking, we had a cottage with no gas or electricity and thus depended
on paraffin for heating, light, cooking, etc.
I'm wondering if such an old-fashined and basic oven is still
available and could be placed on a gas hob. I realise it's not going
to be able to do 'fast' roasting but we managed some quite good 'slow
roast' meals on our paraffin stove top oven.
So any pointers to 'hob top ovens' would be welcome. My attempts at
searching for such a thing came up with nothing except loads of places
that sell hobs and ovens.

They are still made - look for 'camp' or 'camping' ovens. Coleman do one.

[Chris Green]

Post by S Viemeister

Post by Chris Green
Once upon a time a very long time ago we had an oven that sat on the
top of a paraffin stove. That's a paraffin stove as in one used for
cooking, we had a cottage with no gas or electricity and thus depended
on paraffin for heating, light, cooking, etc.
I'm wondering if such an old-fashined and basic oven is still
available and could be placed on a gas hob. I realise it's not going
to be able to do 'fast' roasting but we managed some quite good 'slow
roast' meals on our paraffin stove top oven.
So any pointers to 'hob top ovens' would be welcome. My attempts at
searching for such a thing came up with nothing except loads of places
that sell hobs and ovens.

They are still made - look for 'camp' or 'camping' ovens. Coleman do one.

OK, thanks, though the Coleman ovens I found seem to be gas ovens with
hob burners on top.

However using the word 'camping' has produced some interesting hits.

[S Viemeister]

Post by Chris Green

Post by S Viemeister

Post by Chris Green
Once upon a time a very long time ago we had an oven that sat on the
top of a paraffin stove. That's a paraffin stove as in one used for
cooking, we had a cottage with no gas or electricity and thus depended
on paraffin for heating, light, cooking, etc.
I'm wondering if such an old-fashined and basic oven is still
available and could be placed on a gas hob. I realise it's not going
to be able to do 'fast' roasting but we managed some quite good 'slow
roast' meals on our paraffin stove top oven.
So any pointers to 'hob top ovens' would be welcome. My attempts at
searching for such a thing came up with nothing except loads of places
that sell hobs and ovens.

They are still made - look for 'camp' or 'camping' ovens. Coleman do one.

OK, thanks, though the Coleman ovens I found seem to be gas ovens with
hob burners on top.

Yes, I noticed quite a few of those, but mixed in were some which
sounded like what you are looking for.

Post by Chris Green
However using the word 'camping' has produced some interesting hits.

[Ophelia]

Post by Chris Green

Post by S Viemeister

Post by Chris Green
Once upon a time a very long time ago we had an oven that sat on the
top of a paraffin stove. That's a paraffin stove as in one used for
cooking, we had a cottage with no gas or electricity and thus depended
on paraffin for heating, light, cooking, etc.
I'm wondering if such an old-fashined and basic oven is still
available and could be placed on a gas hob. I realise it's not going
to be able to do 'fast' roasting but we managed some quite good 'slow
roast' meals on our paraffin stove top oven.
So any pointers to 'hob top ovens' would be welcome. My attempts at
searching for such a thing came up with nothing except loads of places
that sell hobs and ovens.

They are still made - look for 'camp' or 'camping' ovens. Coleman do one.

OK, thanks, though the Coleman ovens I found seem to be gas ovens with
hob burners on top.

Yes, I noticed quite a few of those, but mixed in were some which
sounded like what you are looking for.

Post by Chris Green
However using the word 'camping' has produced some interesting hits.

==

We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.

[Ophelia]

"Ophelia" wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...

We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.

==

Here is a link:

https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

[Chris Green]

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

[Ophelia]

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

Chris Green

==

Ah sorry, I just posted the first one that came up:))

Look up Coleman UK. Amazon and Ebay usually sell then too:)

Do let me know how you get on.


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[Brian Reay]

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)

[Ophelia]

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)

=

I have tried one but I couldn't stabilise the heat so it was very limited as
to what I could cook in it.

I first tried it with bread. It was edible but not worth trying again,

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)
=
I have tried one but I couldn't stabilise the heat so it was very
limited as to what I could cook in it.
I first tried it with bread. It was edible but not worth trying again,

Pizza is much less 'demanding' than bread, not least because you use a
'stone' which spreads the heat to the thin base for the short cooking
time (10-15 mins at most). I've had pizza cooked in a closed BBQ on a
clay floor tile. It was a bit 'crispy' on the bottom but fine otherwise.

I've seen, but not tried, bread cooked in a cast iron Dutch Oven by
heaping the 'coals' (charcoal) from a fire over it. I assume it works
due the cast iron diffusing the heat.

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)
=
I have tried one but I couldn't stabilise the heat so it was very limited
as to what I could cook in it.
I first tried it with bread. It was edible but not worth trying again,

Pizza is much less 'demanding' than bread, not least because you use a
'stone' which spreads the heat to the thin base for the short cooking
time (10-15 mins at most). I've had pizza cooked in a closed BBQ on a
clay floor tile. It was a bit 'crispy' on the bottom but fine otherwise.

I've seen, but not tried, bread cooked in a cast iron Dutch Oven by
heaping the 'coals' (charcoal) from a fire over it. I assume it works
due the cast iron diffusing the heat.

===

Bread in a Dutch oven works well. I retired early to travel with my husband
who was doing consultancy work. We bought a new caravan but the oven was
rubbish. It simply didn't get hot enough. I have always made my own bread
and didn't intend to be thwarted <g> In the end I used a Dutch oven and it
worked fine. It gives a good 'lift' to the bread too, but you need to be
very careful it doesn't burn.
I used to use it on the gas hob.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)
=
I have tried one but I couldn't stabilise the heat so it was very
limited as to what I could cook in it.
I first tried it with bread. It was edible but not worth trying again,

Pizza is much less 'demanding' than bread, not least because you use a
'stone' which spreads the heat to the thin base for the short cooking
time (10-15 mins at most). I've had pizza cooked in a closed BBQ on a
clay floor tile. It was a bit 'crispy' on the bottom but fine otherwise.
I've seen, but not tried, bread cooked in a cast iron Dutch Oven by
heaping the 'coals' (charcoal) from a fire over it. I assume it works
due the cast iron diffusing the heat.
===
Bread in a Dutch oven works well. I retired early to travel with my
husband who was doing consultancy work. We bought a new caravan but the
oven was rubbish. It simply didn't get hot enough. I have always made
my own bread and didn't intend to be thwarted <g> In the end I used a
Dutch oven and it worked fine. It gives a good 'lift' to the bread
too, but you need to be very careful it doesn't burn.
I used to use it on the gas hob.

I don't doubt your experience but confess to being surprised, I would
think you needed heat 'all around' - which is why people help the
'coals' over the dutch oven.

We have a motorhome and the oven is, to put it mildly, disappointing.
Not only is there little evidence of any real temp control, it just does
seem to get as hot as it should. Having asked around, this seems to be
'normal' rather than it being broken. The grill isn't much good either-
again a common issue. Admittedly, we prefer electric ovens but they
aren't practical in a motorhome/caravan. At least we have a microwave.

[Ophelia]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Chris Green

Post by Ophelia
We have a Coleman. It has no inbuilt heating, you sit it on top of a
camping gas stove or any other type of heat source. When not in use it folds
flat. Basically it is a folding metal box with a door on the front with a
thermometer attached. To get best results you really need to wrap it in a
fire blanket or similar to add extra insulation.
==
https://www.coleman.com/camp-oven/2000016462.html

Thank you, I wonder if there's a UK supplier.

You could also try looking for a 'camping pizza oven'. I say an English
family with one of these on a BBQ in France last year. It was
essentially a metal box with a door which you sat on a heat source. It
seemed to have a crude thermometer on it. I'm not sure how well it
worked but they were eating pizza later ;-)
=
I have tried one but I couldn't stabilise the heat so it was very limited
as to what I could cook in it.
I first tried it with bread. It was edible but not worth trying again,

Pizza is much less 'demanding' than bread, not least because you use a
'stone' which spreads the heat to the thin base for the short cooking
time (10-15 mins at most). I've had pizza cooked in a closed BBQ on a
clay floor tile. It was a bit 'crispy' on the bottom but fine otherwise.
I've seen, but not tried, bread cooked in a cast iron Dutch Oven by
heaping the 'coals' (charcoal) from a fire over it. I assume it works
due the cast iron diffusing the heat.
===
Bread in a Dutch oven works well. I retired early to travel with my
husband who was doing consultancy work. We bought a new caravan but the
oven was rubbish. It simply didn't get hot enough. I have always made my
own bread and didn't intend to be thwarted <g> In the end I used a Dutch
oven and it worked fine. It gives a good 'lift' to the bread too, but
you need to be very careful it doesn't burn.
I used to use it on the gas hob.

I don't doubt your experience but confess to being surprised, I would
think you needed heat 'all around' - which is why people help the
'coals' over the dutch oven.

== I have done that and it does bake faster, but the heat underneath works
ok. Oh one thing though, I never put the dough directly on the bottom.

We have a motorhome and the oven is, to put it mildly, disappointing.
Not only is there little evidence of any real temp control, it just does
seem to get as hot as it should. Having asked around, this seems to be
'normal' rather than it being broken. The grill isn't much good either-
again a common issue. Admittedly, we prefer electric ovens but they
aren't practical in a motorhome/caravan. At least we have a microwave.

== I never use the oven at all except for storage. Waste of space. I have
a table top oven and a Teppanyaki grill. They are both low wattage but they
work ok.

I still use the gas hob of course. As for the Dutch oven needing heat all
around, don't ever try touching one with your bare hands when it is on the
hob:))

[Chris Green]

Post by Brian Reay
I don't doubt your experience but confess to being surprised, I would
think you needed heat 'all around' - which is why people help the
'coals' over the dutch oven.
We have a motorhome and the oven is, to put it mildly, disappointing.
Not only is there little evidence of any real temp control, it just does
seem to get as hot as it should. Having asked around, this seems to be
'normal' rather than it being broken. The grill isn't much good either-
again a common issue. Admittedly, we prefer electric ovens but they
aren't practical in a motorhome/caravan. At least we have a microwave.

Out of interest what make is your motorhome oven? We can then avoid
that particular make/model.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Chris Green

Post by Brian Reay
I don't doubt your experience but confess to being surprised, I would
think you needed heat 'all around' - which is why people help the
'coals' over the dutch oven.
We have a motorhome and the oven is, to put it mildly, disappointing.
Not only is there little evidence of any real temp control, it just does
seem to get as hot as it should. Having asked around, this seems to be
'normal' rather than it being broken. The grill isn't much good either-
again a common issue. Admittedly, we prefer electric ovens but they
aren't practical in a motorhome/caravan. At least we have a microwave.

Out of interest what make is your motorhome oven? We can then avoid
that particular make/model.

I can't recall the model but it is a Thetford. The 'limitations' don't
seem to be confined to a particular model/make - I think it is a general
issue having spoken to others.

Of course, you tend not to be using the oven a lot, if nothing else the
gas usage is an issue, as is the temp in the van (at least in the
summer) but even things like oven chips take a long time- 40mins say.