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This is what the EU Remainers have signed us up to......
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Keema's Nan
2019-03-23 20:50:41 UTC
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From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.

Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.

No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.

Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.

This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.

Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Fredxx
2019-03-23 21:08:20 UTC
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On 23/03/2019 20:50, Keema's Nan wrote:

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Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Keema's Nan
2019-03-23 22:20:48 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.

It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
Fredxx
2019-03-24 00:20:38 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
Keema's Nan
2019-03-24 07:59:58 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Quite the opposite.It means what it says.
Post by Fredxx
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
What other way?
Fredxx
2019-03-24 13:49:54 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Quite the opposite.It means what it says.
Post by Fredxx
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
What other way?
To most here, they would think that was obvious.

That Denmark makes a substantial contribution to the EU, especially as
there are less than 6 million living in Denmark.
Keema's Nan
2019-03-24 14:21:58 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Quite the opposite.It means what it says.
Post by Fredxx
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
What other way?
To most here, they would think that was obvious.
That Denmark makes a substantial contribution to the EU, especially as
there are less than 6 million living in Denmark.
I notice you think you are being clever by omitting the word ’net’ from
your sentence.

Remember that my words were “virtually no net contribution” which to me
means they make a net contribution but it is a very small percentage.

You insist that "all the evidence (fact) points the other way”, and yet you
have suddenly come over very coy when asked what this other way is. Are you
saying they make a very substantial net contribution?
Fredxx
2019-03-24 16:06:53 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Quite the opposite.It means what it says.
Post by Fredxx
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
What other way?
To most here, they would think that was obvious.
That Denmark makes a substantial contribution to the EU, especially as
there are less than 6 million living in Denmark.
I notice you think you are being clever by omitting the word ’net’ from
your sentence.
Remember that my words were “virtually no net contribution” which to me
means they make a net contribution but it is a very small percentage.
You're still making claims as you go. You could provide the evidence but
you won't, or more accurately; can't.
Keema's Nan
2019-03-24 16:43:23 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
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Post by Fredxx
<snip>
Denmark makes virtually no net contribution to the EU
Can you provide this evidence for this claim?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn’t have “claimed” it.
Is that 'no I'm not able' in disguise?
Quite the opposite.It means what it says.
Post by Fredxx
Post by Keema's Nan
It is fact; so try a bit of googling - you might learn something.
I have and all the evidence (fact) points the other way.
What other way?
To most here, they would think that was obvious.
That Denmark makes a substantial contribution to the EU, especially as
there are less than 6 million living in Denmark.
I notice you think you are being clever by omitting the word ’net’ from
your sentence.
Remember that my words were “virtually no net contribution” which to me
means they make a net contribution but it is a very small percentage.
You're still making claims as you go.
Which claims?

Are you trying to convince me that you accidentally left out the word
’net’ when claiming Denmark’s contribution was substantial?

You might have to try harder with your attempts to muddy the waters.
Post by Fredxx
You could provide the evidence
Why should I provide evidence to someone who has already stated "I have and
all the evidence (fact) points the other way”.

Either you have fucked up big time with your idea of what the facts pointing
the other way actually means, or you are a complete idiot.

I suspect both, but am giving you the benefit of the doubt, because I am a
kindly soul.
Post by Fredxx
but
you won't, or more accurately; can't.
Liar.
Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
2019-03-23 21:44:37 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:50:41 +0000, Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Have you ever BEEN to Denmark? If you've seen Danish weather, you'd
be glad, as a cow, to be indoors.
Keema's Nan
2019-03-23 22:21:36 UTC
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Post by Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:50:41 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Have you ever BEEN to Denmark? If you've seen Danish weather, you'd
be glad, as a cow, to be indoors.
Well I suppose you would know all about how it feels to be a cow.
Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
2019-03-24 12:35:19 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 22:21:36 +0000, Keema's Nan
Post by Keema's Nan
Post by Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 20:50:41 +0000, Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Have you ever BEEN to Denmark? If you've seen Danish weather, you'd
be glad, as a cow, to be indoors.
Well I suppose you would know all about how it feels to be a cow.
Well, you're the one who bleats about the welfare of cows. Presumably
by imagining yourself in their place.
The Peeler
2019-03-24 17:08:36 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 05:35:19 -0700, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
Post by Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
Post by Keema's Nan
Well I suppose you would know all about how it feels to be a cow.
Well, you're the one who bleats about the welfare of cows. Presumably
by imagining yourself in their place.
From what we heard from you, you imagine yourself being INSIDE cows,
cow-porker! <G>
--
Gay anal Razovic, posting as The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe, supports sex
with cows:
"If you or I tried to fuck a cow, do you think the cow would even notice? It
should not only be legal but acceptable as a legitimate alternative
lifestyle."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism/tree/browse_frm/month/2003-09/ef8cdceb7bc57ff1?rnum=81&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.activism%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2003-09%3F
The Peeler
2019-03-23 23:26:24 UTC
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On Sat, 23 Mar 2019 14:44:37 -0700, serbian bitch Razovic, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous sexual cripple, making an ass
Post by Shitsack Moishe Goldbergsky (né O'Faherty)
Have you ever BEEN to Denmark? If you've seen Danish weather, you'd
be glad, as a cow, to be indoors.
I trust that YOU would like to be indoors when you visit the cows, as people
can't easily check your activities indoors, cow-porker (see sig)!
--
Gay anal serb peasant Razovic, posting as The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe,
supports sex with cows:
"If you or I tried to fuck a cow, do you think the cow would even notice? It
should not only be legal but acceptable as a legitimate alternative
lifestyle."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.activism/tree/browse_frm/month/2003-09/ef8cdceb7bc57ff1?rnum=81&_done=%2Fgroup%2Falt.activism%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fmonth%2F2003-09%3F
Malcolm Loades
2019-03-24 07:29:26 UTC
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Cross posting to 5 newsgroups is commonly the tactic of a troll or
nutcase more interested in generating argument and dissent than rational
discussion.

A newsreader which I no longer use was able to filter out posts to
multiple (you chose how many) newsgroups. I now use Thunderbird which
doesn't seem to have this capability ... unless someone knows better?

Malcolm

PS This is being posted to uk.food+drink.misc ONLY. If you follow up
take care to do it to this newsgroup only. Or, better still a private
reply.
Post by Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Kev
2019-03-28 14:38:31 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
Its not a huge exercise to actually google the net contributions and find

https://english.eu.dk/en/faq/net-contribution

or
https://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/

that show Denmark as a net contributor at a rate roughly 12% that of the
UK, which given their population is roughly equivalent.

Let the trolling begin...
Kev
2019-03-28 14:44:06 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
This is a nice graph

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start

you can use the buttons to show that Denmark net contribution by
population is quite a bit higher than the UK
Fredxx
2019-03-28 20:08:30 UTC
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Post by Kev
 From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall
barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
This is a nice graph
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start
you can use the buttons to show that Denmark net contribution by
population is quite a bit higher than the UK
Very nice. That was the situation 12 years ago. Do you think it might
have changed a little in the mean time?

Some up to date numbers would be useful, you may note Keema Nan didn't
want to provide any links to validate his lies either?
Kev
2019-03-28 22:18:46 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
Post by Kev
 From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in free-stall
barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
This is a nice graph
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start
you can use the buttons to show that Denmark net contribution by
population is quite a bit higher than the UK
Very nice. That was the situation 12 years ago. Do you think it might
have changed a little in the mean time?
Some up to date numbers would be useful, you may note Keema Nan didn't
want to provide any links to validate his lies either?
It doesn't look as if its changed much

http://money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=DK
Fredxx
2019-03-28 22:40:33 UTC
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Post by Kev
Post by Fredxx
Post by Kev
 From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in
free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their
destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
This is a nice graph
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start
you can use the buttons to show that Denmark net contribution by
population is quite a bit higher than the UK
Very nice. That was the situation 12 years ago. Do you think it might
have changed a little in the mean time?
Some up to date numbers would be useful, you may note Keema Nan didn't
want to provide any links to validate his lies either?
It doesn't look as if its changed much
http://money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=DK
Net as a % of GDP for both UK and Denmark is 0.42%, so not "quite a bit
higher than the UK".
Kev
2019-03-29 22:53:38 UTC
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Post by Fredxx
Post by Kev
Post by Fredxx
Post by Kev
 From the Arla website - Many of Arla’s dairy cows live in
free-stall barns.
They are free to walk around between the feeding station, the water trough,
the milking parlour and their beds. Just like grazing cows, housed cows lie
down for between 10-14 hours day chewing the cud.
Notice how (despite photos of cows in the open air) there is no mention of
key words, such as grass, field, open air, trees, etc. Things a Brexiteer
would naturally associate with cows.
No wonder the bloated EU subsidised continental companies can undercut our
British dairy farmers with cruel practices such as Battery Cows.
Arla is a €10.3bn turnover Danish company which, because Denmark makes
virtually no net contribution to the EU, is free to buy up farms in the UK,
which contributes 13 times as much to the EU as Denmark, and use animal
cruelty (battery cow) methods in order to put UK farmers out of business and
secure more profits for itself.
This is just one small example of how the EU is shafting the UK all end’s
up.
Remainers are going to have a lot to answer for, if their
destructive tactics
win the day. I just hope they are happy with their unbelievable naivety.
This is a nice graph
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8036097.stm#start
you can use the buttons to show that Denmark net contribution by
population is quite a bit higher than the UK
Very nice. That was the situation 12 years ago. Do you think it might
have changed a little in the mean time?
Some up to date numbers would be useful, you may note Keema Nan
didn't want to provide any links to validate his lies either?
It doesn't look as if its changed much
http://money-go-round.eu/Country.aspx?id=DK
Net as a % of GDP for both UK and Denmark is 0.42%, so not "quite a bit
higher than the UK".
The net contribution per capita is 154.43 in the UK and 204.09 in
Denmark - I reckon that's higher? :)

Our GDP figure is flattering as we are not as productive.
Joe
2019-03-30 09:32:05 UTC
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 22:53:38 +0000
Post by Kev
Post by Fredxx
Net as a % of GDP for both UK and Denmark is 0.42%, so not "quite a
bit higher than the UK".
The net contribution per capita is 154.43 in the UK and 204.09 in
Denmark - I reckon that's higher? :)
Our GDP figure is flattering as we are not as productive.
Everybody's GD'P' includes state borrowing, printing and spending. It's
all a fraud.
--
Joe
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