World cuisine

[Mike.. . . .]

I've been thinking, you can't cook the worlds food unless you have
deduced the essential rationale behind each cuisine. Why did it evolve
that way? What ingredients are natural to it and what outside
influences came to bear and when? I decided I wanted a sentence in my
head that summed up each one, for some I have done this, but there's a
mass of styles out there I lack sufficient expertise. Here are the
ones I have finalised, could you add others?

USA: European dishes modified to include extra local ingredients like
sweetcorn, served in hearty portions.
Spain: Swimming in olive oil.
England: Simple meat and two or three veg in little piles.
Eire: Like England but with extra potatoes.
Scotland: Like England but deep fried.
Wales: Like England but small portions.
France: At least two sauces.
Italy: Wheat in all sorts of shapes, hence popular with children.
China: All the things we regard as inedible or protected, numbered and
served with rice.
India: Stew with chilies
Germany: Who cares?
Greece: the clues in the name.
Iceland: whale and no chips.
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years


please add countries or suggest improvements or possible errors-

[Giusi]

Post by Mike.. . . .
I've been thinking, you can't cook the worlds food unless you have
deduced the essential rationale behind each cuisine. Why did it evolve
that way? What ingredients are natural to it and what outside
influences came to bear and when? I decided I wanted a sentence in my
head that summed up each one, for some I have done this, but there's a
mass of styles out there I lack sufficient expertise. Here are the
ones I have finalised, could you add others?
USA: European dishes modified to include extra local ingredients like
sweetcorn, served in hearty portions.
Spain: Swimming in olive oil.
England: Simple meat and two or three veg in little piles.
Eire: Like England but with extra potatoes.
Scotland: Like England but deep fried.
Wales: Like England but small portions.
France: At least two sauces.
Italy: Wheat in all sorts of shapes, hence popular with children.
China: All the things we regard as inedible or protected, numbered and
served with rice.
India: Stew with chilies
Germany: Who cares?
Greece: the clues in the name.
Iceland: whale and no chips.
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years

Facile and smartalecky. You left out, for example, in the USA the enormous influences of Asian and Mexican and the many traditional dishes inspired by the travels of whalers and tea merchants.

While you may think eating pasta is an Italian meal, no Italian does, nor does an Italian eat bread with pasta. Even more important in Italy is the inclusion of wild things as important foods, as there are many thing you wouldn't be eating today if they hadn't started it.

You blithely ignore the very existence of Africa, the Middle-east and South America.

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
Facile and smartalecky.

you might just be taking it a little too seriously? Jane & I were both
trying to inject some debate into a more or less dying newsgroup, in
this case with a plainly ridiculous analyis of world food as a
starting point, do you really think I regard spanish food as "swimming
with olive oil"?

Post by Giusi
You blithely ignore the very existence of Africa, the Middle-east and South America.

"Here are the ones I have finalised, could you add others?"
.........."please add countries"

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
Facile and smartalecky.

you might just be taking it a little too seriously? Jane & I were both
trying to inject some debate into a more or less dying newsgroup, in
this case with a plainly ridiculous analyis of world food as a
starting point, do you really think I regard spanish food as "swimming
with olive oil"?

Post by Giusi
You blithely ignore the very existence of Africa, the Middle-east and South America.

"Here are the ones I have finalised, could you add others?"
.........."please add countries"

Sorry, can't; only been out of UK territory twice - Yougoslavia, a long
time ago when it was Yugoslavia and too long ago to remember and, not much
later, Eire where we were diving and self catering. Got our milk from a
neighbour in a jug but apart from that, being unrich, no eating out so not
much idea of local food; shop on Valentia where we were stocked the sort of
things we had at home.

Jane

[White Spirit]

Post by Jane Gillett
Sorry, can't; only been out of UK territory twice - Yougoslavia, a long
time ago when it was Yugoslavia and too long ago to remember and, not much
later, Eire

I think you will find the correct name is 'Ireland'.

[Giusi]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
Facile and smartalecky.

you might just be taking it a little too seriously? Jane & I were both
trying to inject some debate into a more or less dying newsgroup, in
this case with a plainly ridiculous analyis of world food as a
starting point, do you really think I regard spanish food as "swimming
with olive oil"?

. . . .

Hey! I debated! You want me to be all limp and soothing like a salve?

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
Facile and smartalecky.

you might just be taking it a little too seriously? Jane & I were both
trying to inject some debate into a more or less dying newsgroup, in
this case with a plainly ridiculous analyis of world food as a
starting point, do you really think I regard spanish food as "swimming
with olive oil"?

. . . .
Hey! I debated! You want me to be all limp and soothing like a salve?

Thanks Guisi.

Can you suggest which wild food elements have been introduced into our diet
via Italy?

Jane

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Sun, 2 Feb 2014 03:48:52 -0800 (PST), Giusi

Post by Giusi
While you may think eating pasta is an Italian meal, no Italian does, nor does an Italian eat bread with pasta.

An Italian restaurant in Manchester where I often had lunch always put
a selection of crispy bread on the table regardless of the choice of
food. Many Italians also dined there but I can't say if they had any
bread.

Steve

[Giusi]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
An Italian restaurant in Manchester where I often had lunch always put
a selection of crispy bread on the table regardless of the choice of
food. Many Italians also dined there but I can't say if they had any
bread.
Steve

A Manchester restaurant serves what Mancusians expect. An Italian restaurant will put bread on the table nowadays, because tourists expect it and eat it any old time, but an Italian-Italian does not eat it until the second course.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 03:18:24 -0800 (PST), Giusi

Post by Giusi

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
An Italian restaurant in Manchester where I often had lunch always put
a selection of crispy bread on the table regardless of the choice of
food. Many Italians also dined there but I can't say if they had any
bread.
Steve

A Manchester restaurant serves what Mancusians expect. An Italian restaurant will put bread on the table nowadays, because tourists expect it and eat it any old time, but an Italian-Italian does not eat it until the second course.

The restaurant caters for Mancunians of all types including Italians
who work in Manchester. I thought you were saying that Italians eat
pasta instead of bread. It's clear now that you mean pasta and bread
at the same time.

Steve

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 03:18:24 -0800 (PST), Giusi

Post by Giusi

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
An Italian restaurant in Manchester where I often had lunch always put
a selection of crispy bread on the table regardless of the choice of
food. Many Italians also dined there but I can't say if they had any
bread.
Steve

A Manchester restaurant serves what Mancusians expect. An Italian restaurant will put bread on the table nowadays, because tourists expect it and eat it any old time, but an Italian-Italian does not eat it until the second course.

The restaurant caters for Mancunians of all types including Italians
who work in Manchester. I thought you were saying that Italians eat
pasta instead of bread. It's clear now that you mean pasta and bread
at the same time.

Well, I don't think I would either - unless, of course, the pasta was part
of soup in which case I definitely would. Do italians not have pasta in
soup?
Jane

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Steve

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Do italians not have pasta in
soup?

alphabeti spaghetti in tomato soup is a speciality of Emilia-Romagna.
But as you move south towards the toe, constanants are replaced by
vowels and in Sardinia its entirely "o"s (and may be the source of
spaghetti hoops, the rather superior UK derivative of spaghetti).

There is also minestrone, immortalised in the C&W song "Minestrone
Cowboy" by Glen Cambell which is an invaluable pronunciation guide to
the many anglophones who mispronounce "minestrone" as mini - stron -
-ee. It's actually like the 2 english words mine & stone.

which is the theme of one of
the "spaghetti westerns" so called because they were the first piece
of popular culture that acknowledged the role of pasta and
italian-americans in winning the west. Few realize Custer had dyed his
hair blonde and that his real name was in fact Custardo. Funnily
enough Clint's mother was also of Italian roots (Gina Morricone).

[Tim C.]

Post by Giusi

Post by Mike.. . . .
I've been thinking, you can't cook the worlds food unless you have
deduced the essential rationale behind each cuisine. Why did it evolve
that way? What ingredients are natural to it and what outside
influences came to bear and when? I decided I wanted a sentence in my
head that summed up each one, for some I have done this, but there's a
mass of styles out there I lack sufficient expertise. Here are the
ones I have finalised, could you add others?
USA: European dishes modified to include extra local ingredients like
sweetcorn, served in hearty portions.
Spain: Swimming in olive oil.
England: Simple meat and two or three veg in little piles.
Eire: Like England but with extra potatoes.
Scotland: Like England but deep fried.
Wales: Like England but small portions.
France: At least two sauces.
Italy: Wheat in all sorts of shapes, hence popular with children.
China: All the things we regard as inedible or protected, numbered and
served with rice.
India: Stew with chilies
Germany: Who cares?
Greece: the clues in the name.
Iceland: whale and no chips.
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years

Facile and smartalecky. You left out, for example, in the USA the enormous influences of Asian and Mexican and the many traditional dishes inspired by the travels of whalers and tea merchants.
While you may think eating pasta is an Italian meal, no Italian does, nor does an Italian eat bread with pasta. Even more important in Italy is the inclusion of wild things as important foods, as there are many thing you wouldn't be eating today if they hadn't started it.
You blithely ignore the very existence of Africa, the Middle-east and South America.

Good grief. Lighten up!

[Giusi]

Post by Tim C.
Good grief. Lighten up!
Tim C. Linz, Austria.

Get some teeth, Tim! He posted this to get an argument. I gave him one.

[Tim C.]

Post by Giusi

Post by Tim C.
Good grief. Lighten up!
Tim C. Linz, Austria.

Get some teeth, Tim! He posted this to get an argument. I gave him one.

To get a discussion, it seemed to me. It was hardly argument material.

[White Spirit]

Post by Tim C.

Post by Giusi

Post by Tim C.
Good grief. Lighten up!
Tim C. Linz, Austria.

Get some teeth, Tim! He posted this to get an argument. I gave him one.

To get a discussion, it seemed to me. It was hardly argument material.

Yes, it was.

[Giusi]

Post by Tim C.

Post by Giusi

Post by Tim C.
Good grief. Lighten up!
Tim C. Linz, Austria.

Get some teeth, Tim! He posted this to get an argument. I gave him one.

To get a discussion, it seemed to me. It was hardly argument material.

You believe that? He waltzed with stereotypes about places he doesn't eat as well as those he does. He repeated a stereotype that he has been saying for years no longer applies to the UK. He wants to mix it up, Tim. He's bored. Aren't we all by February?

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
. He repeated a stereotype that he has been saying for years no longer applies to the UK.

yes, it was a set of stereotypes for fun! Clearly not my views of
Spanish, British or Italian food, you will remember I worked my way
down edible Italy as far as Naples before retiring and restricting
myself to the more convenient and cheaper Spain, surely it is
unbelievable to you that I think Italian food= pasta? Or that all
Spaniards cook with excessive olive oil or indeed olive oil at all?

The cold and wet must be getting to you! BTW It's raining here
-period! Gods Wonderful Railway has been washed into the briny at
Dawlish and cannot even start to be repaired till a dove brings back
an olive branch or something, Brunel must be turning in his broad
gauge grave. Zomerzet has gone down with all hands, venture off the M5
at your peril (of course climate change isn't happening).

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Giusi

Post by Giusi
in the USA the enormous influences of Asian and Mexican

I can do Tex-Mex: "Beef, chilli, beans, cheese, avocado, sour cream
and misnamed flatbreads in infinite combinations that all taste much
the same."

Germany II: Obsessed with purity to the exclusion of anything more
interesting than saurkraut.

<phew, didnt mention the war>

Indonesia: Nazi Goering

<doh!>

Turkey: see Greece

Cyprus: see Turkey

Gibraltar: see UK

Switzerland: see bank manager

[Tim C.]

Post by Mike.. . . .
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years

Reminds me of the old joke about a plane about to land in NZ.
The stewardess, over the tannoy: "we will shortly be landing in
Wellington. To set your watches to local time please turn them back 30
years."

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Tim C.

Post by Tim C.
Reminds me of the old joke about a plane about to land in NZ.
The stewardess, over the tannoy: "we will shortly be landing in
Wellington. To set your watches to local time please turn them back 30
years."

"a trip to Canada is worthwhile, but not for the whole weekend"

"I always fly to Berlin with BA and back to London with Lufthansa, the
pilots know the way in the dark."

[Tim C.]

Post by Mike.. . . .
I've been thinking, you can't cook the worlds food unless you have
deduced the essential rationale behind each cuisine. Why did it evolve
that way? What ingredients are natural to it and what outside
influences came to bear and when? I decided I wanted a sentence in my
head that summed up each one, for some I have done this, but there's a
mass of styles out there I lack sufficient expertise. Here are the
ones I have finalised, could you add others?
USA: European dishes modified to include extra local ingredients like
sweetcorn, served in hearty portions.
Spain: Swimming in olive oil.
England: Simple meat and two or three veg in little piles.
Eire: Like England but with extra potatoes.
Scotland: Like England but deep fried.
Wales: Like England but small portions.
France: At least two sauces.
Italy: Wheat in all sorts of shapes, hence popular with children.
China: All the things we regard as inedible or protected, numbered and
served with rice.
India: Stew with chilies
Germany: Who cares?
Greece: the clues in the name.
Iceland: whale and no chips.
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years
please add countries or suggest improvements or possible errors-

Austrian: lots of whipped cream, cheese and apricots. Oh, and pork.
German: um...er ...wh cares? oh, and pork.
France: Too many flavours in one dish. Often overly fussy.

[John Silver]

Post by Mike.. . . .
I've been thinking, you can't cook the worlds food unless you have
deduced the essential rationale behind each cuisine. Why did it evolve
that way? What ingredients are natural to it and what outside
influences came to bear and when? I decided I wanted a sentence in my
head that summed up each one, for some I have done this, but there's a
mass of styles out there I lack sufficient expertise. Here are the
ones I have finalised, could you add others?
USA: European dishes modified to include extra local ingredients like
sweetcorn, served in hearty portions.
Spain: Swimming in olive oil.
England: Simple meat and two or three veg in little piles.
Eire: Like England but with extra potatoes.
Scotland: Like England but deep fried.
Wales: Like England but small portions.
France: At least two sauces.
Italy: Wheat in all sorts of shapes, hence popular with children.
China: All the things we regard as inedible or protected, numbered and
served with rice.
India: Stew with chilies
Germany: Who cares?
Greece: the clues in the name.
Iceland: whale and no chips.
New Zealand: English food minus 50 years
please add countries or suggest improvements or possible errors-

The worst lamb I ever had was in N.Z. The worst pizza was in Rome. The
worst Lasagna is a four way tie between Canada, Sweden, Australia and
the Isle of Man. At least the Isle of Man lady owner had a sense of
humour. She told me that if vegetarians asked if the lasagna was
vegetarian she told them it was. Two protested that they had found meat
in it. Well yes she had replied but not very much.
John

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Post by John Silver
At least the Isle of Man lady owner had a sense of
humour. She told me that if vegetarians asked if the lasagna was
vegetarian she told them it was. Two protested that they had found meat
in it. Well yes she had replied but not very much.
John

I always remember being in a queue for a meal when the person in front
asked if there was anything suitable for vegetarians. The woman
serving the meals said "try the chicken".

Steve

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by John Silver
At least the Isle of Man lady owner had a sense of
humour. She told me that if vegetarians asked if the lasagna was
vegetarian she told them it was. Two protested that they had found meat
in it. Well yes she had replied but not very much.
John

I always remember being in a queue for a meal when the person in front
asked if there was anything suitable for vegetarians. The woman
serving the meals said "try the chicken".

Yes, there is that attitude, in fact, I've also met veggies who will eat
chicken if there are no meatless cooked dishes available although I don't
understand it myself. Guess it's a matter of just why you are cutting meat
out of your diet - health, welfare, land use or what.

Cheers
jane

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Steve

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Yes, there is that attitude, in fact, I've also met veggies who will eat
chicken if there are no meatless cooked dishes available although I don't
understand it myself. Guess it's a matter of just why you are cutting meat
out of your diet - health, welfare, land use or what.

a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Yes, there is that attitude, in fact, I've also met veggies who will eat
chicken if there are no meatless cooked dishes available although I don't
understand it myself. Guess it's a matter of just why you are cutting meat
out of your diet - health, welfare, land use or what.

a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

Yes. There are lots of reasons. I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"
replied with the question:
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'? That's how I feel about any dead animals."
Cheers
jane

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

Yes. There are lots of reasons. I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'? That's how I feel about any dead animals."

yes, go back far enough and the answer would have been "yes, I would".
As we don't get exposed to these things and are not short of food
anymore this attitude has developed, quite a lot of people will only
eat lean meat sold off the bone in a supermarket wrapper for the same
reason. However, I tend to think the roadkill argument is just that,
an argument to convince, rather than always the core reason. As
veggies tend to spend a lot of time trying to make things seem like
meat, I dont think lack of attractiveness of dead meat is the reason,
I think its usually around killing for food, when we could live on
brussels sprouts instead. My freind with the weird ugly chicken
excuse, was giving a irrational verson of the dislike of killing
things that are more or less like us. In the past many people regarded
non human animals as completely different from us, lacking a soul.
Nowadays most people regard us as just the most evolved mammal by
degree and that souls do not exist. Note killing of dolphins shocks
western carnivores because they are almost as intelligent as us. So
many are operating a rule along the lines of, if its stupid, its OK
to kill and eat it. People also argue that animals, unlike us have no
concept of death and live entirely in the present, both of which are
fairly obviously not true. We are also often in the position of being
unwilling to kill the meat ourselves. The most honest answer I can
find for eating meat is "it tastes nice".

[W.A. Sawford]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

Yes. There are lots of reasons. I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'? That's how I feel about any dead animals."

yes, go back far enough and the answer would have been "yes, I would".

Funnily enough, I knew someone (must be over 20 years ago) who did exactly
that. He'd drive to work in the morning, went back home for lunch, and if
there was roadkill which was 'fresh' at lunchtime, he'd pick it up and
take it home. We were round there for dinner once and were given pheasant.
Sure enough, he'd picked it up off the road. These days it seems quite a
'green' thing to do I'd have thought.

Wendy

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by W.A. Sawford

Post by W.A. Sawford
These days it seems quite a
'green' thing to do I'd have thought.

as long as its involuntary pheasantslaughter, voluntary
pheasantslaughter is probably poaching.

[W.A. Sawford]

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by W.A. Sawford
'green' thing to do I'd have thought.

as long as its involuntary pheasantslaughter, voluntary
pheasantslaughter is probably poaching.

Oh I believe it was involuntary slaughter yes!

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

Yes. There are lots of reasons. I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'? That's how I feel about any dead animals."

yes, go back far enough and the answer would have been "yes, I would".

I know people who have eaten roadkill deer or pheasant when they came
across them; think it depended how damaged the carcass was.

Post by Mike.. . . .
As we don't get exposed to these things and are not short of food
anymore this attitude has developed, quite a lot of people will only
eat lean meat sold off the bone in a supermarket wrapper for the same
reason. However, I tend to think the roadkill argument is just that,
an argument to convince, rather than always the core reason. As
veggies tend to spend a lot of time trying to make things seem like
meat, I dont think lack of attractiveness of dead meat is the reason,
I think its usually around killing for food, when we could live on
brussels sprouts instead. My freind with the weird ugly chicken
excuse, was giving a irrational verson of the dislike of killing
things that are more or less like us. In the past many people regarded
non human animals as completely different from us, lacking a soul.
Nowadays most people regard us as just the most evolved mammal by
degree and that souls do not exist. Note killing of dolphins shocks
western carnivores because they are almost as intelligent as us. So
many are operating a rule along the lines of, if its stupid, its OK
to kill and eat it.
People also argue that animals, unlike us have no
concept of death and live entirely in the present, both of which are
fairly obviously not true.

I think there <are> ways in which it is true. I've been present when a
sheep was shot in a pen with another sheep present; other sheep looked up
to see what the noise was and then went on eating.

Post by Mike.. . . .
We are also often in the position of being
unwilling to kill the meat ourselves.

I choose my meat to be killed by someone else <who is competent>. The
slaughterman we used killed with little distress IMV and he had a good
reputation for killing in the area. He was a slaughterman on a tv program
"Kill it,cook it, eat it" a few years ago and he always took time and care
to make the animal as calm and confident as possible.

However, I have to admit that I don't like the killing and I would prefer
not to be present; I feel that having chosen a suitable slaughterer I have
met my obligations to the animal.

Post by Mike.. . . .
The most honest answer I can
find for eating meat is "it tastes nice".

Yep.

JAne

[Ophelia]

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Yes, there is that attitude, in fact, I've also met veggies who will eat
chicken if there are no meatless cooked dishes available although I don't
understand it myself. Guess it's a matter of just why you are cutting meat
out of your diet - health, welfare, land use or what.

a person I know does not eat meat but eats chicken because "chickens
are ugly". <shrug>

Yes. There are lots of reasons. I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'? That's how I feel about any dead animals."

Many people are happy to eat road kill:)

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:07:13 -0000, "Ophelia"

Post by Ophelia
Many people are happy to eat road kill:)

The only road kill I have seen recently is hedgehog. I don't fancy
that.

Steve

[Ophelia]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:07:13 -0000, "Ophelia"

Post by Ophelia
Many people are happy to eat road kill:)

The only road kill I have seen recently is hedgehog. I don't fancy
that.

You might if it was all there was:) I am told it tastes like rabbit:)

[David B]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 26 Feb 2014 14:07:13 -0000, "Ophelia"

Post by Ophelia
Many people are happy to eat road kill:)

The only road kill I have seen recently is hedgehog. I don't fancy
that.
Steve

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2007/sep/14/britishidentity.lifeandhealth

D

[Janet]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
The only road kill I have seen recently is hedgehog. I don't fancy
that.

I was once hitch-hiking in a truck whose Turkish driver screeched to
a halt and jumped out to grab a large healthy unhurt hedgehog he'd
spotted.. for the pot.

Janet.

[Janet]

In article <***@higherstert.co.uk>,
***@higherstert.co.uk says...


I met one veggie who, when asked "Why"

Post by Jane Gillett
"When you see a run-over animal in the road is your intuitive response
'I'd like to eat that'?

On ocasion, yes! Dead pheasants and deer at the roadside are
incredibly common in parts of rural Scotland. I've often seen drivers
here pull up and quickly scoop up a fresh suicide deer or pheasant they
saw get hit (that had died of a head injury, body still undamaged). Very
often the victim got fatally clipped on the head but the body flips over
onto the verge without getting squashed.

We've taken and eaten such pheasants ourselves.

Janet.

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Janet

Post by Janet
Dead pheasants and deer at the roadside are
incredibly common in parts of rural Scotland.

Surprisingly 25% of car/deer collisions are within 50 miles of London.
The trouble is they are liable to write off your car or you rather
than make a nice pie.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Tue, 25 Feb 2014 07:25:36 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by John Silver
At least the Isle of Man lady owner had a sense of
humour. She told me that if vegetarians asked if the lasagna was
vegetarian she told them it was. Two protested that they had found meat
in it. Well yes she had replied but not very much.
John

I always remember being in a queue for a meal when the person in front
asked if there was anything suitable for vegetarians. The woman
serving the meals said "try the chicken".

Yes, there is that attitude, in fact, I've also met veggies who will eat
chicken if there are no meatless cooked dishes available although I don't
understand it myself. Guess it's a matter of just why you are cutting meat
out of your diet - health, welfare, land use or what.
Cheers

Then there are the "vegetarians" who eat fish.

Steve