Wake

[graham]

Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

[Saxman]

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

It's to do with the growth of social media and better web resources.
Some groups still thrive where that information cannot be found.

Put it this way, if I wanted to find out about raised beds, I'd probably
search the web before coming here.

[Saxman]

Post by Saxman

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

It's to do with the growth of social media and better web resources.
Some groups still thrive where that information cannot be found.
Put it this way, if I wanted to find out about raised beds, I'd probably
search the web before coming here.

For raised beds, read, a recipe. (I had raised beds on my mind)!

[Ophelia]

Post by Saxman

Post by Saxman

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

It's to do with the growth of social media and better web resources.
Some groups still thrive where that information cannot be found.
Put it this way, if I wanted to find out about raised beds, I'd probably
search the web before coming here.

For raised beds, read, a recipe. (I had raised beds on my mind)!

lol too late:)) I wouldn't necessarily come here for a recipe but I do like
to hear what others are cooking.

[Ophelia]

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

It's to do with the growth of social media and better web resources. Some
groups still thrive where that information cannot be found.
Put it this way, if I wanted to find out about raised beds, I'd probably
search the web before coming here.

I should think so too. Why would we know about raised beds?

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Saxman

Post by Saxman
Put it this way, if I wanted to find out about raised beds, I'd probably
search the web before coming here.

indeed, recent queries I have had found answers on web based fora
(forums?). I wouldn't expect to find them via FB. I would expect to be
able to easily link foodie news items (along with pictures) and
discuss them with a larger number of people than are here now. It's
not perfect or even good, but neither is it the threat to privacy or
anything else people here claim. But it is where things will be for
the immediate future.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Not dead yet. I seen 12 messages this month.

Steve

[Jane Gillett]

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Well, could somebody suggest a time; don't think place would work but maybe
we could look in at some preagreed time.

How about a toast? What do people fancy - and I'm afraid funds don't run to
Chateau Margaux or that ilk but how about a good local beer?

Food - well nibbles or what?

Other? Suggestions?

I'll keep looking in anyway even if replies are few; we could become quite
an elite group - if we started to limit contributors maybe it would become
the thing to do? Or maybe not.

Being serious, how much has thread drift contributed to the downfall, do
you think, and how much the fantastic rise of social media?

Food politics doesn't seem to attract comment as in how food supplies are
going to vary in the future. If I mentioned the fact that quite a lot of
dairy farmers are getting out of dairy and we might have to start importing
liquid milk would anybody care?

Does anybody care that some sections of the farming industry are asking for
a temporary derrogation on bannning of nicotinoids so they have a weapon
they can use against a form of flea beetle which is attacking rape? To me
it's all a valid part of the future human food supply.

Cheers - finally or otherwise,
Jane

[Ophelia]

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Well, could somebody suggest a time; don't think place would work but maybe
we could look in at some preagreed time.
How about a toast? What do people fancy - and I'm afraid funds don't run to
Chateau Margaux or that ilk but how about a good local beer?
Food - well nibbles or what?
Other? Suggestions?
I'll keep looking in anyway even if replies are few; we could become quite
an elite group - if we started to limit contributors maybe it would become
the thing to do? Or maybe not.
Being serious, how much has thread drift contributed to the downfall, do
you think, and how much the fantastic rise of social media?
Food politics doesn't seem to attract comment as in how food supplies are
going to vary in the future. If I mentioned the fact that quite a lot of
dairy farmers are getting out of dairy and we might have to start importing
liquid milk would anybody care?
Does anybody care that some sections of the farming industry are asking for
a temporary derrogation on bannning of nicotinoids so they have a weapon
they can use against a form of flea beetle which is attacking rape? To me
it's all a valid part of the future human food supply.

I think the never ending discussions about anything but actually cooking has
done a great deal to cause this situation. When I have commented in the
past I am told that is is 'misc'! Well fine, but you just look back at
the screens and screens of just two people having their 'discussions' and
then ask where everyone else is!

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Being serious, how much has thread drift contributed to the downfall, do
you think, and how much the fantastic rise of social media?

its right across usenet, its not about what was posted here. Only 1
group I used is still pretty active. Most of the ex regulars here and
many others are using the facebook version of F & D plus "UK off
topic".

[Malcolm Loades]

In message <wamqv.166812$***@fx30.iad>, graham <***@shaw.ca>
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.

I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.

However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.

Malcolm

[graham]

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.
Graham

[Ophelia]

Post by graham

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.

I went there 'once'! It was more then enough!

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:54:57 +0100, "Ophelia"

Post by Ophelia

Post by graham

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.

I went there 'once'! It was more then enough!

I think everyone samples Facebook. Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

Steve

[Ophelia]

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:54:57 +0100, "Ophelia"

Post by Ophelia

Post by graham

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.

I went there 'once'! It was more then enough!

I think everyone samples Facebook. Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

Dunno but it didn't suit me. The kids and grands used to be always
complaining that we didn't go on but they have given up now:)

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

you can have total privacy, a lot of nonsense gets talked about FB
here.

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

you can have total privacy, a lot of nonsense gets talked about FB
here.

usenet became established when computing was for an elite, now it
isnt.
FB is as private and as anonymous as you make it, your choice. It's
more secure than here, whats private or safe about usenet exactly?
Usenet is all but dead, those of you remaining have a choice, lose
touch with people or move on as the vast majority have.

It's slightly harder to have a point by point debate there, that might
be a good thing. It's more of a conversation. Less "you stated x, you
are wrong because...." and subsequent flame war.

But debating differences is pointless, the world moved on some time
ago. Like it or not.

[Malcolm Loades]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

you can have total privacy, a lot of nonsense gets talked about FB
here.

usenet became established when computing was for an elite, now it
isnt.
FB is as private and as anonymous as you make it, your choice. It's
more secure than here, whats private or safe about usenet exactly?
Usenet is all but dead, those of you remaining have a choice, lose
touch with people or move on as the vast majority have.
It's slightly harder to have a point by point debate there, that might
be a good thing. It's more of a conversation. Less "you stated x, you
are wrong because...." and subsequent flame war.
But debating differences is pointless, the world moved on some time
ago. Like it or not.

It's flaws go deeper than that. It's impossible (to the best of my
knowledge) to save individual postings which are of interest.
Impossible to search on specific word patterns etc.

You can't break what you're writing into paragraphs in order to make it
clear. Press the 'Enter' button and what you've written is immediately
posted. This restricts what you can say and how clearly you say it.

Facebook postings are ephemera. They are as long lived as a Mayfly and
only allow slightly more to be said than a twitter posting.

That's why I hate it.

Malcolm

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Malcolm Loades

Post by Malcolm Loades
You can't break what you're writing into paragraphs in order to make it
clear. Press the 'Enter' button and what you've written is immediately
posted. This restricts what you can say and how clearly you say it.

shift enter.

[Tim C.]

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Malcolm Loades
You can't break what you're writing into paragraphs in order to make it
clear. Press the 'Enter' button and what you've written is immediately
posted. This restricts what you can say and how clearly you say it.

shift enter.

Ah, I didn't know that. ta.

[Malcolm Loades]

Post by Tim C.

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Malcolm Loades
You can't break what you're writing into paragraphs in order to make it
clear. Press the 'Enter' button and what you've written is immediately
posted. This restricts what you can say and how clearly you say it.

shift enter.

Ah, I didn't know that. ta.

Nor me!

Malcolm

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Malcolm Loades

Post by Malcolm Loades

Post by Tim C.

Post by Mike.. . . .
shift enter.

Ah, I didn't know that. ta.

Nor me!

what would be good was if you could permanently change to
chronological instead of most recent, but as it changes every five
minutes anyway....

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Malcolm Loades

Post by Malcolm Loades
Facebook postings are ephemera. They are as long lived as a Mayfly and
only allow slightly more to be said than a twitter posting.

is there a maximum? I haven't hit it.

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

you can have total privacy, a lot of nonsense gets talked about FB
here.

usenet became established when computing was for an elite, now it
isnt.
FB is as private and as anonymous as you make it, your choice. It's
more secure than here, whats private or safe about usenet exactly?
Usenet is all but dead, those of you remaining have a choice, lose
touch with people or move on as the vast majority have.
It's slightly harder to have a point by point debate there, that might
be a good thing. It's more of a conversation. Less "you stated x, you
are wrong because...." and subsequent flame war.
But debating differences is pointless, the world moved on some time
ago. Like it or not.

OT has been blamed for death of UKFD so I have avoided non-food topics.
Result?
A distinct lack of recipe-swapping or taste/quality evaluation of
comparative foods. In fact a distinct lack of anything. Not surprised
really; OT never stopped ONtopic posts so if they weren't there I guess it
was because nobody wanted them.

So.

Anybody want a chat?

About anything?

Seems food/nonfood is immaterial so what gets YOUR goat? I have a few.

. Food politics/global supplies - well that's "food" really but doesn't
seem to float anyone's boat (as a matter of interest is anybody talking
about it on FB or not?). HOw is the need to import going to affect us?

. TV's habit of saying "look at this chart/picture/graph/view/whatever" and
merely showing a picture of the presenter looking at it so you can't see
what he's talking about. Do presenters have command of minutes cameratime I
wonder?

. TV cooking progs; some single chef progs interesting but I switch off
when time-constraints (races) or "celebrity" participation. In fact, hardly
bother to switch ON now.

. Plastics. Degradation. Recent topic but drifted.

. Colostrum; Well, that's food too; just been hearing (radio) that it's the
in-thing for athletes ATM; heals aching muscles it seems. Years ago a
neighbour with goats offered us some. Unfortunately the offer was made with
the phrase:"I used to give it to Mrs A in the village but she died.". Tried
it but didn't realise at the time that it reacted like eggs on heating ie
set. :)

Facebook or not? Jury's still out for me I'm afraid but been v.busy and not
really evaluated prospects; still need to give time to MicroS/Linux
decision but recent car total demise didn't help (on the A38 late Friday
afternoon, Plymouth bound in summer, with no hard shoulder; racetrack comes
to mind). FB doesn't sound a good medium for discussion (but if that's all
there is .....) but I still think the effects of massive instant crowd
management have not been considered, at least not publicly - probably have
been in govt services, MIx etc and maybe by large commercial organisations.

Last post I have is 1st July. Is this IT?

Cheers
Jane

[Ophelia]

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
Those with brains or a need for
privacy do not stay for long.

you can have total privacy, a lot of nonsense gets talked about FB
here.

usenet became established when computing was for an elite, now it
isnt.
FB is as private and as anonymous as you make it, your choice. It's
more secure than here, whats private or safe about usenet exactly?
Usenet is all but dead, those of you remaining have a choice, lose
touch with people or move on as the vast majority have.
It's slightly harder to have a point by point debate there, that might
be a good thing. It's more of a conversation. Less "you stated x, you
are wrong because...." and subsequent flame war.
But debating differences is pointless, the world moved on some time
ago. Like it or not.

OT has been blamed for death of UKFD so I have avoided non-food topics.

Yes, because the foodies are long gone:( I doubt more than a handful look
in any more.

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Mike.. . . .
But debating differences is pointless, the world moved on some time
ago. Like it or not.

OT has been blamed for death of UKFD

wrongly!

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Facebook or not? Jury's still out for me I'm afraid but been v.busy and not
really evaluated prospects;

thats where everybody went

Post by Jane Gillett
still need to give time to MicroS/Linux
decision but recent car total demise didn't help (on the A38 late Friday
afternoon, Plymouth bound in summer, with no hard shoulder; racetrack comes
to mind).

not good!

Post by Jane Gillett
FB doesn't sound a good medium for discussion (but if that's all
there is .....)

why not just find out for yourself rather than listen to what has
often been nonsense posted here?

Post by Jane Gillett
but I still think the effects of massive instant crowd
management have not been considered,

for 300 odd people in a food group? I'm sure some aspects of all the
connectivity now around might have some implications or other along
these lines but you are *not* connected to the whole world in a small
FB food group. You are *not* connected to the whole world if you join
FB. MI5 will not be panicking.Things appparently go "viral" on social
media, so the media tell us, that will not be us, it will probably be
a video of a cute cat. It will effect nothing much. If you decide to
start making freinds with terror groups or syrian jihadists it might
be different. UK food? No.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:23:48 +0100, Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Jane Gillett

Post by Jane Gillett
Facebook or not? Jury's still out for me I'm afraid but been v.busy and not
really evaluated prospects;

thats where everybody went

It's where I went until realising FB is totally incompatible with the
way I want to work.

Steve

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Jane Gillett
Facebook or not? Jury's still out for me I'm afraid but been v.busy and not
really evaluated prospects;

thats where everybody went

It's where I went until realising FB is totally incompatible with the
way I want to work.

the mechanics are not as good as usenet, its FB or nothing.

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
its FB or nothing.

or web forums

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:23:24 +0100, Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
its FB or nothing.

or web forums

One for each of the Usenet newgroups I use. That makes 23 web forums
just for today.

Steve

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Mike.. . . .
or web forums

One for each of the Usenet newgroups I use. That makes 23 web forums
just for today.

I find them harder to use than FB. But people expect info to be on the
web, I'm afraid.

[Stephen Wolstenholme]

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:55:27 +0100, Mike.. . . .

Post by Mike.. . . .
Following a post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Mike.. . . .
or web forums

One for each of the Usenet newgroups I use. That makes 23 web forums
just for today.

I find them harder to use than FB. But people expect info to be on the
web, I'm afraid.

Yes. I put all my info on the web but not in forums. Years ago I
joined a few AI based forums but they have all dried up now. Perhaps I
moved too soon.

So far today my wife and I have read updates on 45 newsgroups, written
to 7 newsgroups. I have read a web forum and received 1 FB
notification. My wife has read a web forum and has had nothing from FB
despite pressure to use it from her friends. I think we will stay
here.

Steve

[Mike.. . . .]

Following a post by Stephen Wolstenholme

Post by Stephen Wolstenholme
. I have read a web forum and received 1 FB
notification. My wife has read a web forum and has had nothing from FB
despite pressure to use it from her friends. I think we will stay
here.

FB is different if you are in groups, then its not about friends. I've
seen dozens of posts from gardening, food, off topic and wildlife
groups.

[Jenny]

Post by Ophelia

Post by graham

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.

I went there 'once'! It was more then enough!
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Ditto!

Jenny

[Saxman]

I think the growth of 'social media' is affecting some groups,
especially the 'chat' ones. One can more or less find out anything
these days with a Google search.

Technical groups and such like seem to be surviving.

Post by Jenny

Post by Ophelia

Post by graham

Post by Malcolm Loades
writes

Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.
Graham

Yes. It's pretty much all moved over to Facebook.
I read the Fb group most of the time and contribute a bit there but I
don't really like the way it works. It's all very much the current
moment in time. Trying to find something interesting you saw 10 days ago
is extremely difficult. Just trying to find anything on a subject alone
is near impossible. Social media is geared to what's happened, or been
said, in the last hour or so. Debate is difficult, there is no
formalised quoting so it's difficult to know who's been answered. It's
all very shallow.
However, it's what the majority want. Most posters to the Fb group have
previously posted here so they understand how a newsgroup works and must
therefore prefer the Fb way of doing things and have voted with their
typing fingers.
Malcolm

I was briefly sucked in to FB but I managed to escape.

I went there 'once'! It was more then enough!
http://www.helpforheroes.org.uk/shop/

Ditto!
Jenny

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Saxman
I think the growth of 'social media' is affecting some groups,
especially the 'chat' ones. One can more or less find out anything
these days with a Google search.
Technical groups and such like seem to be surviving.

Very pleased to see this set of posts to this group; I usually look in
"more in hope than expectation".

Did look into (different "look"!) using Facebook but found I'd need to buy
a new mobile phone - mine's too old - only does phone calls. Facebook needs
a phone and landlines don't qualify it seems. As I want to minimise the
info held on me on the internet I'd have to buy a phone where I can remain
totally anonymous; haven't actually got around to trying.

Perhaps we're not quite dead yet.

Dare I ask how people think TTIP** is going to affect our food or is that
too political?

Cheers
Jane

**TTIP - ongoing negotiation about removal of trade barriers including
national regulations and standards. Appears to be being carried out away
from the public eye. Between EU and US ATM. Far reaching (NHS practices
involvement eg and powers of commercial v state generally) but food aspects
relevant here. Due agreement 2014-15 IIRC. Suggest a google if interested.

[Saxman]

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Saxman
I think the growth of 'social media' is affecting some groups,
especially the 'chat' ones. One can more or less find out anything
these days with a Google search.
Technical groups and such like seem to be surviving.

Very pleased to see this set of posts to this group; I usually look in
"more in hope than expectation".
Did look into (different "look"!) using Facebook but found I'd need to buy
a new mobile phone - mine's too old - only does phone calls. Facebook needs
a phone and landlines don't qualify it seems. As I want to minimise the
info held on me on the internet I'd have to buy a phone where I can remain
totally anonymous; haven't actually got around to trying.
Perhaps we're not quite dead yet.
Dare I ask how people think TTIP** is going to affect our food or is that
too political?
Cheers
Jane
**TTIP - ongoing negotiation about removal of trade barriers including
national regulations and standards. Appears to be being carried out away
from the public eye. Between EU and US ATM. Far reaching (NHS practices
involvement eg and powers of commercial v state generally) but food aspects
relevant here. Due agreement 2014-15 IIRC. Suggest a google if interested.

Smartphones have been around for 10 years. It's better to go with the
flow.

[Jane Gillett]

Post by Saxman

Post by Jane Gillett

Post by Saxman
I think the growth of 'social media' is affecting some groups,
especially the 'chat' ones. One can more or less find out anything
these days with a Google search.
Technical groups and such like seem to be surviving.

Very pleased to see this set of posts to this group; I usually look in
"more in hope than expectation".
Did look into (different "look"!) using Facebook but found I'd need to buy
a new mobile phone - mine's too old - only does phone calls. Facebook needs
a phone and landlines don't qualify it seems. As I want to minimise the
info held on me on the internet I'd have to buy a phone where I can remain
totally anonymous; haven't actually got around to trying.
Perhaps we're not quite dead yet.
Dare I ask how people think TTIP** is going to affect our food or is that
too political?
Cheers
Jane
**TTIP - ongoing negotiation about removal of trade barriers including
national regulations and standards. Appears to be being carried out away
from the public eye. Between EU and US ATM. Far reaching (NHS practices
involvement eg and powers of commercial v state generally) but food aspects
relevant here. Due agreement 2014-15 IIRC. Suggest a google if interested.

Smartphones have been around for 10 years. It's better to go with the
flow.

Yes. In most cases. But sometimes you don't want to for reason which seem
important to you.

Out of interest, what do you classify as a "smartphone" and what not?
Is there an internationally recognised standard for "smart" or will any
phone qualify which has an operating system which allows the phone to
access <anything> in addition to phone calls eg web?

Jane

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Post by graham
Perhaps we should hold a wake for this group as is seems to be dead.

If there were more cooking discussions it might reawaken.